regarding the explanation of what p4p is. for me, p4p is a way comparing fighters of different weight divisions. like hypothetically "if they were the same weight", who would be winning against who, who would be better, who would be stronger, etc. im a pac fan and i put him somewhere on the top because his punches are very stong. but to me, it's like a "whip-like" kind of punching power that requires damaging his opponent overtime to ko/tko them compared to other fighter's mentioned before who has "bombs" in their hands. so i think juanma deserves to be one of the top if-not the top p4p hardest puncher, despite of that penalosa thing ( hell, penalosa is almost impossible to ko ).
I'm surprised not more people mention torres, who has terrifying power. Urango also hits like a maul. aa and juanma are also obvious choices up there...
Haye holds the P4P title for trashtalking and pulling out of fights but P4P hardest Puncher in Boxing ?
Actually, I believe Quitali still holds the record with an amazing 5 pull-outs, all against the same guy. Boy did he not want that fight to happen.
Caballero knocked him down and had him badly hurt. I'm pretty sure he was also knocked down by some Thai no-name.
Maybe one of these : Tua (anyway , 1st rd KO's against relatively (for it) opposition) Marciano Jackson Langford O'neil Bell Pacquiao (for me approximately tko1 against marquez and KD's in their second also , carries his power through many divisions , say whatever you want) Benn (see McClellan,Watson,Collins) Eubank (see Watson,Collins) if he'll stop woods also and then another reasonable or above lightheavy maybe we can expect travoris cloud to join the list of candidates. the problem with tyson : the use of elbows surely helped him.
See here is why the p4p argument falls down its is skewed towards the smaller guys. I guess in this case you could argue Wlad is p4p the fastest guy around as he weighs 250 pounds and doesnt move at half the speed of a featherweight
Speed is one thing that can't be measured p4p, because size does not relate to speed until you get to a certain weight. The junior welters and WW are just as fast if not faster than anyone at 106 or higher. Speed is the one trait that can't be measured as far as P4P, if it was than olympic sprinters wouldn't be so big and muscular.
Which is why p4p discussions are so pointless because they only take into accounty certain attributes, yet p4p lists and p4p scenarios get so much attention on here However i wasnt trying to dig you up for starting the thread , its just my personal annoyance !
Do u forget the fact that penalosa had never touched the canvas in his entire carreer? much less had a fight stoped.... if juanma would have won on points then people would have said that he was to weak to stop penalosa and when he did stop it now they are saying that it doesnt count because the guy is old..... double standards