P4p is getting ridiculous !!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freddy-wak, Apr 27, 2009.


  1. AbbasKhan6428

    AbbasKhan6428 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont believe in the p4p list. its gay!!! all I care about is the P4P #1 guy, none of that **** like P4P number 6,7,8 etc
     
  2. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Co-Sign :deal
     
  3. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    no, but come on man....every weekend there's like 4 names that get added on the the p4p list...:lol:
     
  4. bizzer07

    bizzer07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pac vs mayweather is the only real p4p no1 match up i certainly want to see. it will be interesting the call if hatton beats pac, but he doesnt deserve to be no1 imo.

    back to the first comment yes i agree, p4p's are far too talked about in boxing today, pure fantasy, its stupid
     
  5. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I get your point.......Personally I don't think there's 10 fighters worthy of being P4P worthy.......

    It should actually read "FIGHTERS WORTHY OF P4P CONSIDERATION"

    Case in point, Vic Darchanian is a TOUGH SOB, love him as a fighter, but it's NO WAY he is an elite P4P fighter. He is an awkward CRUDE fighter who got ****ED up when he stepped up in competition.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    but who are your 10 best fighters in the world?

    actually scratch that, who are the 5 best fighters in the world?
     
  7. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I know what ya mean.

    Literally as soon as a fighter gets a decent win in impressive fashion, whether the opponent is that great or not there are people saying 'so where do you rate him now p4p?'.

    Admittedly its become a bit of a merry go round lately with the whole Mosley-Cotto-Margo triangle with PW thrown in there as well. It genuinely has become very difficult to rank fighters properly. I think a better, more accurate way of doing it is to rank fighters in tiers.

    So you'd get something like

    Pac, JMM, Bhop


    Mosley, Cotto, PW, Vazquez, Rafa

    Etc.
     
  8. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    JMM
    Pac
    Williams
    Hopkins
    Mosley

    There's a top 5
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I got

    Pac
    JMM
    Hopkins
    Mosley
    Cotto
     
  10. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would have to say

    1. Manny Pacquaio
    2. JMM
    3. Joe Calzaghe (not giving up hope YET)
    4. Floyd Mayweather (see Joe Calzaghe)
    5. BHOP (call me crazy, but the man has lost 3 time this DECADE and ONLY in the Calzaghe fight did I see him fighting at a pace he didn't want to)

    I don't think anyone else really matters..........
    For instance, Ricky lost his biggest battle, YET IMHO, if he can beat Manny, he jumps back into the discussion.
     
  11. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    Jesus Christ...some of you guys are ridiculous.

    ESB forums is a no win situation...If a fighter wins against a great opponent, you give them no consideration. If a fighter loses you call them shot, career cut short or w/e else excuse you may have.

    This is the reason why I don't believe in P4P rankings. Boxing has way too many belts as well IMO. they should have ONE belt for each weight class and not this WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF bla bla bla bull****.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Gotta say i'm surprised you think Calzaghe is a better fighter than Floyd.
     
  13. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch
    NO, NO, NO, NO, I apologize, I wasn't doing that in order...........wewwwwwwwww had to get that straight...:patsch

    I may add Cotto in place of BHOP due to the fact that the guy who beat Cotto, MAY have been wearing plaster.

    Much respect to your list:good
     
  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i agree, freddy. i think it has more to do with wanting to be part of the moment. "hey i was the first to recognize that this kid was going straight to the top" kind of thing. remember khan, mijares etc... i get caught up in the hype sometimes but for the most part i like for the fighter to prove themselves against the top shelf fighters first. sometimes the difference in class between a, b and c is really big so a b class fighter will look phenomenal against a c class fighter but when pitted aginst the best his defficiencies become apparent. too many factors such as strength of opposition, styles, timing of tests and level of hype can make a fighter bigger than his talent deserves. ill let time tell the real story.
     
  15. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another thing is that a fighter should not be ranked solely on the basis of a win or two against good opposition.

    This is boxing, better fighters can and do lose to inferior opponents skill/talent wise. Froch is a good example. Beating Taylor dont make him elite, even if he beat an elite fighter, in my eyes anyway. Just dangerous.