P4P: pac or floyd?

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  1. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you asking who wins? in 2009/ 10 I'd pic pacquiao. Now I'd favor Floyd.

    Who's greater ? pacquiao

    Better? It's like comparing apples and oranges.
     
    Gander Tasco, Feb 23, 2012
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  2. Chex31

    Chex31 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    money

    easy work, easy fight.
     
    Chex31, Feb 23, 2012
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  3. st.anger

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    you fukken stupid if you think floy has more power than pac...heart?..really..lol, sh1t floyd vs anyone in heart department and he losses...the guy is an excellent boxer but got courage issues for real...
     
    st.anger, Feb 23, 2012
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  4. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never said Mayweather has more Power than Pacquiao. Just that Pacquiao has no clear advantage. in fact at 147 they are pretty close.
    Both were much better in lower weights.
    As far as hart goes. Watch the second round of Mayweather/Mosley or the first Castillio fight. Even if you think Mayweather lost and you'd be wrong. He made the best of a bad situation.
     
    ripcity, Feb 23, 2012
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  5. st.anger

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    pac does'nt...only power, i think that is pretty obvious...

    heart is the reason why floyd gets bashed...all he does is talk big, but when it's time to bring it, he retires,makes excuses, take vacations, etc...thats the main problem with him....
     
    st.anger, Feb 23, 2012
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  6. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    one thing all you guys have to remember.

    ortiz won 2 out of 4 rounds.

    how did he do it. by pressing the action and simply punching and landing more.
    by pushing mayweather in defenciv mode and unleash a lot of punches.

    size has to play a part of it, because ortiz was bigger or as big as floyd and could actualy outmuscle floyd and put up the pressure. and thats what he did.

    than imagine pacquiao (in a p4p sense) being 5'8 tall having shoulders as big as floyds and weighing 147 and on top having the arm length.

    he would be a ****ing monster, he already is one, but at that size he probably would destroy martinez, even pose some super middleweights some problems.

    pacquiao's power, hand and footspeed > ortiz power & speed

    upgraded pacquiao >>>>>>>>>>>> what has ortiz

    so from that standpoint I see pacquiao just putting to much pressure, landing more, the harder shots on floyd and winning the fight.
     
    Chempasillo, Feb 23, 2012
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  7. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    The fact that Pacquiao is winning this poll is hilarious :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
    canucks9314, Feb 23, 2012
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  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz won 2 of 4 rounds? Against who? Lost all 4 to Mayweather, never fought Pacquiao. Was it against Maidana? Although that fight went 6 rounds.
     
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  9. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ortiz landed more in some rds vs floyd and won some.
     
    Chempasillo, Feb 23, 2012
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  10. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    I really hope you're an alt account because if you really think that Ortiz won 2/4 against Mayweather you're an idiot. In fact he would have been 5 points down after 4 because Mayweather would have had round 4 as a 10-8 round :lol::lol::rofl:rofl
     
    canucks9314, Feb 23, 2012
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  11. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:patsch
     
    canucks9314, Feb 23, 2012
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  12. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On paper I beleive Pac has the better record, but I had him losing his last fight against a guy Mayweather schooled. I know that doesnt tell the whole story on the potential h2h but this is a tight choice and on recent performance you have to say Mayweather.
     
    jc, Feb 23, 2012
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  13. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Pound for pound is about who's the best RIGHT NOW. If it were based on career accomplishments then Morales would be a top 10 p4p fighter.
     
    canucks9314, Feb 23, 2012
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  14. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for agreeing with me.
     
    jc, Feb 23, 2012
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  15. Englund

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    How embarrassing... I think you need to check the punch stats again. Ortiz landed in single digits every round. Floyd had twice as many connects as Ortiz is all rounds but the first. Floyd utterly dominated Ortiz is almost every sense of the word.
     
    Englund, Feb 23, 2012
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