Pac accepts to be tested 14 days prior to fight!!!

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  1. robpalmer135

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    it needs to be all the way or its pointless. at least we see the fight though
     
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    Excellent, a PED expert. What drugs can you cycle in two weeks, that will be of benefit, that won't show up straight after a fight?
     
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    i am not claiming to be an expert but have read articles and heard radio stories that talk about drugs and creams that can enhance performance and be out of your system within 2 days.

    your no expert either.
     
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    by the way i havent see any direct quote from Pacquiao saying he has agreed to 14 days.
     
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    Not specific enough. Fail.
     
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    so why would an expert from the anti doping agency say this

    “If you know you aren’t going to be tested within the last 14 days, you can cheat and get away with it" if it wasn't possible. he doesn't have a hidden agenda
     
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    What drugs, Rob, what drugs? I want specifics, otherwise you're just another ESB **** talking **** who only became aware of PEDs at the hest of a crackhead. What drugs, can Pac take, in two weeks that won't show up in a post-fight drug test. If you can name the specifics, I also want to know the tangible benefits.

    If you can't answer these questions specifically, then please shut up as you clearly know **** all.
     
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    EPO.

    what do you know then.....proove me wrong.

    I am not going to just make stuff up, go onto the web and you can read all sorts about EPO which is what the Mayweather camp believe Pacquiao is taking. heres a few quotes from article on max boxing.

    "Chemical traces of synthetic EPO can be eliminated by a well-educated user in less than twenty-four hours"

    Conte says that PED testing in boxing today is “IQ testing,” nothing more. In a recent interview with Steve Kim of Maxboxing.com, he declared, “The loopholes are so big that you could drive a Mack Truck through them. It’s really a joke. Traditional testing in boxing is basically worthless other than the detection of some types of stimulant before and after a fight. The testing is, almost by design, inept, and this basic ineptness breeds the use of performance enhancing drugs.”

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoElrXBBRc[/ame]
     
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    Think you need a cold shower :D
     
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    Oh really, Rob? Thanks for clearing that one up for us. The accusations have all been a bit flaky you ask me, going from:

    HGH.
    Some weird army endurance drug.:rofl
    And now EPO.

    Just stop writing, you fool. You'd never even mentioned drug testing before December, now you're all over every thread like you know something.
     
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    find me another thread in the last 2 months where i mention drug testing?

    go to 8:25 on the video I sent you. theres not response to the quote or the video which shows me you have nothing to back up your argument which is pretty FOOLish of you.

    show me something that will proove me wrong and says EPO will not make a difference if your taking it 7-8 days before a fight and wont be out of your system within 1-2 days.....i.e random testing up to 14 days before the fight is adequate.

    I have never claimed to be an expert i am only repeating what I have read from experts, so attempting to insult my lack of knowledge of the subject is utterly pointless especially as you appear to have even less knowledge than me.

    in this thread theres a direct quotes from the head of the US anti doping agency, theres quotes and a radio interview with Victor Conte who lets face it knows an awful lot about PED's. If you can show me something from experts of an equal level that disagrees with them, I will happily admit to be a fool and agree that 14 days is fine.........unless you just wanna throw out more petty insults from your desk.
     
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    Mate, there are drugs that can go undetected anyway. Seeing as you read so many articles, you've surely noticed certain experts contradicting, so called, other experts.

    EPO is not a mass nuilding steroid, I know that much. So, on the one hand, you have people saying "his head's grown, he's on something" whilst, at the same time, naming EPO as his drug of choice.

    We can split hairs all day but, the point is, it's uttelry futile us discussing PEDs for the next few months (like last time) when there are so many grey areas. When I see you appear in a thread, arrogantly professing the uselessness of a certain testing regimen, it just seems you're trolling. Even if that's not your intention.
     
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    see your doing it again, your resulting to insults instead of producing something that will happily make me change my mind.

    you point out contradictions based on opinion of what Pacquiao may be using and how it may have improved him, but i do not see any contradictions from the experts on the actual "benefits" and amount of time it takes to be out of the blood stream.

    this is what i have read about EPO. it improves strength, endurance, speed. it does this by increasing there capacity to train harder and for longer. if it can go undetected, which is what i have read, then a 14 day cut of is pointless. theres nothing arrogant, i am not trying to get you made and throw more petty insults at me, i am just giving me opinion based on what I have read.

    i have read and been told that there are steroids/PED's that can have immediate benefits and go undetected within a day. I have posted a few quotes and links to show this. you can call me a **** another 5 times but it would be nice if you show me something that goes against what I am saying.
     
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    What insults? I just think it's awful the way people like you are fuelling this idiotic discussion about PEDs amongst people who'd never heard of any of this **** before December. That's my issue. You can post as many videos of Victor Conte as you like. The ****'s an opportunistic parasite, trying to capitalise on a situation.
     
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