Pac Fighting David Diaz is Ridiculous

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by acb, Nov 21, 2007.


  1. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Your posts are totally wrong throughout this thread. For some reason whenever anyone starts a debate with you, you never listen to reason. To make things worse, you post ridiculous emoticons at the end of every post that have no relevance to what you have said. It makes your posts look very inconclusive, as if you are relying on silly emoticons to make points that you simply could not. Pac lost to Morales the first time, and beat faded legends after that, coming off losses. If you can't see that you have fallen into the category of a nut hugger plain and simple. His best win against a genuine HOF who was not out of their prime was MAB the first time. Great win, but I for one have not been nearly as impressed as some since that time.
     
  2. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    No you're the one reading. If there are no rematches against the old bums you're calling . . . Pac won't be where he is now it's that simple.:yep

    You can't justify Guzman being the best choice as opponent for PaC at this point. The guy has no stature to bring . . . bottom line.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really? It's bottom line now? He is a better fighter than David Diaz. There's a bottom line. You keep talking about stature but then equating it to money or plans....being an unbeaten champion isn't better than a no name title holder? What universe?
     
  4. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Nah nah nah :-( . . . I was already saying "out of the prime legends" so I'm not implying that these fighters can beat Guzman now :lol: . . . What I'm exlpaining here is even if MAB or Morales s already old and out of their primes . . . it is those fights or rematches that makes Pac what he is now.
    Stature man . . . stature.

    And I'm up to Pac fighting JMM next not Guzman . . . what's his stature?
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And I am not implying anything. I am telling you they weren't "the best". You keep changing the context of the argument. Who here is talking about stature? Not me. I am talking about competition level, simple as.

    What's David Diaz's stature? One loss belt holder who barely beat a shot Morales. He has no stature. The problem isn't Pacquiao fighting JMM instead of Guzman or Valero. He is a better fighter than them in most people's opinions. But David Diaz is not. Stop talking about something thats not on the table. You are arguing a point that isn't part of the argument.
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    :-( :lol:

    He maybe the best fighter than everybody else but bottom line is he is not on the radar of Pac team. It's now Diaz or JMM. :yep

    A no name title holder who can give Pac a belt at the next weight division AND will give him more money be always better than Guzman.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh...now you're speculating. And your saying "not on the radar' only makes it worse. How did David Diaz get on the radar?

    And lastly, you have no clue as to how much money Pacquaio would make fighting David Diaz. Bottom line is he is the weaker fighter, and you just proved my point. I don't care about all this other Pac-nonsense about who he can make the most fighting for the least risk. I never want to read another Pacquiao fan criticize PBF for his competition or fighting for money like you were before.
     
  8. psychopath

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    Well no matter how you discredit David Diaz, he is a belt holder at the next higher weight. And any lower weight class fighter who climbs up to fight a title holder in the next division will always get more credit than fighting a champion at his regular weight class. Even if that champion have 12 loses.

    Only people with other motives will not realize that. :yep
     
  9. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Actually, what gave Pac his stature was gunning straight for the best fighters in his division. By this, I mean Barrera (1st fight), Marquez, and Morrales (I will give you the first fight).

    Since then, a trend has developed with Pac. He has fought past prime greats for the last few years and taken gimme fights in between.

    If Im a Pac fan, I want him to go for the best, and NOW. Fighting David Diaz is a complete and utter waste of time and energy. I cant see it any other way.

    Pac is fighting two times a year, and the way I see it he has only 2 years left to make big fights because history tells us his top form will not carry him into his thirties as a fighter.

    Why in the hell waste time?
     
  10. psychopath

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    Speculating? Nah . . . Pacquaio against a tomato can will always make money . . . what more when he is fighting a Mexican which has a large fanbase in U.S.

    You can ask Arum and team Pac on why and how Davis Diaz is on their radar while Guzman is not. It didn't come from me, it's on the written articles. :yep
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More fabrication and speculation. Your motive is to make Pacquiao look good no matter what. You're failing. You don't always get more credit for going up and fighting another champion as opposed to the champion in your division. PBF certainly didn't get more credit for going up and fighting DLH than he would have for fighting Cotto. Or for fight Baldomir or Judah instead of fighting Hatton at 140. That's pretty transparent.

    How did I discredit Diaz? Its a fact that he barely beat Morales. It's a fact that Morales had lost 4 of his prior 5 fights. That's the truth. Why are you trying so desperately to spin it?
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    David Diaz has no fanbase here. If anything, the mexicans dislike him because they think Morales won lol.

    I don't care why Guzman isn't on the radar. Don't care for your explanation either. Point is, it's pathetic.

    Also, you further proved my point. If Pacquiao can make money fighting a tomato can, then he should fight the best fighters and not be as concerned about who he can make the most against. He will make money anyways RIGHT?
     
  13. psychopath

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    Well I'm for the JMM/PAC FIGHT by all means. :yep

    That's the best fight for him now. Need to settle what needs to be settled before planning anything else.
     
  14. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I disagree with this. This all depends on which fighters are in the fighters own weight class.

    Pac happens to fight in a weight class with potentialy great contenders (Guzman, Valero, Soto) and one bonified challenger in JMM.

    Im not complaining at all if Pac never goes to 135 and fights these fighters.

    Going by your arguement, Floyd would get more credit fighting a paper champ at 154lbs than fighting Cotto, Hatton, Williams, Margo, and Cintron. This simly isnt true.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. That was a transparent argument.