Pac is More Worried About Bob Arum Getting His Cut

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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And even with all that bad blood he would still make more money signing with Floyd than he is with I aint got nobody for you to fight and sell PPV outside of Macau Bob Arum.
     
  2. IsaL

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    The point is that hr has the option to not be ripped off by a promoter. He can put his fights up for bid like Mayweather and Cotto do and like Dela Hoya did but for some reason a strange one at that, he chooses to be taken advantage of?
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

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    So let's see Pac was free to leave TR and make the fight with Floyd, the very same Floyd who he wasn't able to make a fight with for the last 5-6 years. And my guess is that Pac probably agreed with most of what Arum did during the negotiations as he wouldn't have resigned with him if he thought Arum was ****ing him around. So for the sake of argument let's say Pac's and Arum's position are pretty much the same. Why should Pac exert all his efforts to make a fight with Floyd when he would be in a weaker position without Arum and Floyd would just continue to try ****ing him over?

    Put it this way smart guy. If Pac left Arum, what deal would Floyd then present to Pac that would be better than anything leading up to that?

    The only one's who have any trouble with Pac not resigning with Arum are Floyd fans, but rather than look at the offers Floyd's presented they simply blame Arum. But I guarantee you if Arum was out of the picture, that fight still won't be getting made. And only an idiot would ever think it makes any sense whatsoever for Pac to sign a promotional deal with Floyd. The same Floyd who essentially lost a defamation suit against him.

    Ya having to sue someone for defaming you would make for a great business partner. :lol:
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    How do you know he's being taken advantage of?

    I admit there's been no lack of scumbags in the world of boxing especially as far a promoters go, but unless you have actually read the contract how do you know Pac's being taken advantage of?

    It's probably not the easiest thing in the world to try and make your own fights and promote them from 1/2 way around the world, especially if you also have commitments to congress and perhaps numerous other commitments.
     
  5. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So is that what happened to Miguel Cotto? Did Floyd force him to fight at a catchweight? Did Floyd short change him and not pay him what he was worth? Did Floyd d_ck him on the PPV? Did Floyd not fight him fair and square and took his title legit? So why would Manny be victimized by your make believe fears of Mayweather? If Manny is worried about a bad contract then look no further than the one he is already signed to with Top Rank.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

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    Why worry about any of them, they're all multimillionaires.

    Perhaps you should check your bank account and see if it's into the 7 or 8 figures, until it is I wouldn't worry about any of them.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    So Mr Lawyer, what specific clauses in Pac's contract with TR have you concerned?
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    Why are you so worried about Pac's contract?

    The way I figure it, he's a grown man and if he had any problems with his contract he could have sought out independent legal counsel before he signed it.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    I don't have any make believe fears of Mayweather whatsoever, but it would stupid beyond belief for Pac to sign a promotional contract with him. I'd say the exact same thing if the situation were reversed. It would just as stupid for Mayweather to sign a contract to have Pac promote his fights as well. Do you see that happening anytime soon?

    I know I'm probably about 30 years older than you and I own my own financial advisory business, but really this is simply common sense don't you think?
     
  10. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That clause in his contract clearly can't seem to get him in the ring with Floyd Mayweather and you know what, Manny seems just fine with that. If I were you as his fan, dont even worry about Manny fighting Floyd no more cause Pac sure isn't concerned with it. Evidence is simple, he's fighting Chris Algeiri in Macau, if this dude wanted to fight Floyd aint no way in hell he would sign a fight like this.

    We all know the master plan, Bob Arum will have Pac fight everybody but Floyd until he can't make another dime off Manny, at that point he'll gladly feed Pac to the Lion. Cashing out is all its ever been about but guess whose cash is actually out.....Manny thats who.
     
  11. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He did "visionquest" and his daddy Arum made him fire them as soon as they showed manny his reciepts
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    It's always going to take two to make this fight happen, so at the end of the day it doesn't really matter who's blamed or not it's we fans who end up loosing out.

    But if you want my opinion most of the fans, rightly or wrongly, will be blaming Floyd.

    Me personally I don't really care, I enjoy watching both fighters and I can like one without having to hate the other. But if the fight never happens both their legacies will suffer and rightly so.
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    I read what Visionquest was doing and it was along the lines of a forensic audit which is what an accounting firm does. And the vast majority of accounting firms don't provide legal advice. sighhhhhhhhhh
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    What clause is that? You mean there's a clause in Pac's contract that prohibits him from fighting Floyd. hmmm. I'd like to see that, got a copy?
     
  15. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People blame Floyd because people dont like Floyd however one look at the evidence and the blame is clearly Pacquiao's Management!!! And even more importantly Manny Pacquiao's lack of independence and self promotion. Floyd's team was ready to take the fight, Manny's team was scrambling for excuses, blood test make him weak, we need a stadium, Pac's cut wont heal, Manny has elections, Floyd is a big meanie, etc...