Pac man makes history?

The WBO belt that he won at catchweight?

I'm not putting Pac down, it was a superb win against Cotto but the fight wasn't made at 147. Its not a welterweight title fight IMHO, I'm just glad its not for the lineal title where it could get messy...

 

Whether it was the WBO or the WBC they have the same ruling. De La Hoya/Hopkins?

 

Makes no odds mate. And I suspect you know what I'm saying is correct.

Both fighters need to have the option to weigh in at the limit of the division.

 

So you are saying that if Cotto would have weighed in at 147 the fight would have been called off?

Do me a favour Gaz and stop splitting hairs,2 Ib is neither here nor there Pac would still have destroyed Cotto no matter what and Pac is a bone fide welter weighing in at 144.

 

They clearly don't have to by the actual rulings though. JCC and Whitaker fought at this same catchweight. In the history books its down as a fight for the WBO welterweight title regardless of what we think of that, thats how it is.

 

Thats not the point. If the fight was made at 147 then Pac would have KO'd Cotto but the fact is it wasn't made at 147 so it isn't a welterweight title fight.

 

Thats a kop out mate and you know it.

 

How is it? They fought the WBO welterweight title which Cotto held, its now around Pac's shoulder.

 

They didn't fight at welterweight. Who owns the belt is irrelevant.

 

:rofl No but if you bought the WWE belt from Woolworths you'd be the Heavyweight champ of the world. Has about the same value as the real belt !

Nah, thats the kop out right there. Completely irrelevant, you didn't challenge Jim Watt for his WBC belt and if you did you'd probably beat the senile old ****. :yep

 

The point I was making was that the material ownership of the belt means nothing because it wasn't won at the correct weight. Welterweight is 147 and title fights should be fought at that weight.

 

Material ownership means everything when you fought for it, and its sanctioned under the rules of the governing body, the WBO in this case, and furthermore when the rules are exactly the same for all major governing bodies. This might be something you don't like in the sport but there are a lot of things I don't like, Pacquiao won the welterweight title in a fight sanctioned for that belt against the former champion.

As for what weight the fight was at, it was still at welterweight. Too high for junior welter and inside the welterweight limit, thats welterweight!

 

Thats completely wrong. If you can't see something as obvious as that then I give up.

 

Nope, its completely right.

Basically you don't like the rules of the ABC's. Theres something new, we've had to live with these jerks for years...

Here, I don't like whoever decided welterweight was 147lbs. I want it at 145lbs.

We can't change the reality, Pac fought for the welterweight title and won it last night

 

Why the laugh?:huh

Welterweight is 147 and has been for the best part of a 100 years, beating a welterweight champion who has been "made" to weigh lower than 147 doesn't make that fighter the welterweight champion.