Pac vs Mayweather advantages/disadvantages

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    You're a Floyd fan, so you do your best to prop Floyd. Boom Boom does the same things for Pac too sometimes.

    Of course it does.

    Mosley isn't some monster 1 punch KO artist like you're trying to make him out. Pac took a clean uppercut he didn't seem from Cotto and was fine. How many 1 punch KO's does Mosley have at WW and above? Not many I'd bet. Pac would've been fine.

    The quality is awful but it looks like body-shot puts him down and out. And for you to even think that an anorexic 16 year old getting KOed in anyway supports your case than you're wacked out. That's like saying Tua has a bad chin because he was KOed as an amateur.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Pretty level-headed view.
     
  3. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ..........Speed - Pacquiao
    ......................Skills - Mayweather
    Style (same as skills) - Mayweather
    ...................Stance - Mayweather
    ..................Stamina - Mayweather
    .......................Chin - Mayweather
    .....................Heart - Mayweather
    ..............Experience - Mayweather
    ....................Reach - Mayweather
    ...........Height/Taller - Mayweather
    Quality of Opponents - Mayweather
    .......Ring Generalship - Mayweather
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pacquiao
    .......................Size - Mayweather
    .......................Age - Pacquiao
    ...................Weight - Same
    ....................Power -Pacquiao
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I simply feel Floyds chin is slightly better. Agree to disagree.



    So because Floyd doesn't get hit cleanly all the time, but took Shanes best shot, got hurt for a moment, came back 10 seconds later and was fine that means that Pac has a better chin because Floyd doesn't get hit clean all the time.



    No he's not but he is the biggest puncher at 147.



    What man, you want to go far back, let's go far back. He was KOed, your eyes dont spin and your not dazed from a bodyshot, he got hit in the head. Watch it in super slo mo, you can clearly see the punch hits his head first because his hair bounces from the impact, while the punch still hasn't touch his body.
     
  5. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No need.:D

    PAC has losses, has draws, been to hell and back. PAC has seen it all. What kind of experience are you looking for?:D
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Im not saying he's not experienced.

    Im merely saying Floyd has more.



    That doesn't mean he's going to win the fight because he has more experience.
     
  7. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course not, experience is only one factor but this factor is in favor for PAC. There are numerous factors and combination thereof that will play out to determine the outcome of this fight.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Agree to disagree.


    At least you aren't being ******ed this time.
     
  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Then by that precedent, Calderon, Chris John and Guzman have an equal amount of stamina as Pac then right? :patsch

    Jmm never hurted Pac thats a myth. Marquez hit Pac while both feet were in the air, it made for a rough landing.


    And just exactly made you decide that Mayweather's heart is not that far behind of Pac's? Was it being being content on winning an easy decision against Baldomir and JMM that decided that for you?

    Yes because 1 amateur fight = 1 Professional fight :roll:



    You contradicted yourself badly, you give Floyd weight,height,reach then say Floyd has the size barely. :lol:

    You *****s cant get it through your thick skulls that this isnt the same Mayweather in the Judah fight, he has grew substantially during his retirement and ya'll are so delusionally in denial of that, it's not even funny. :-(


    What the **** does that have to do with anything?
    It is you who is making the case that because thye fight in the same weight class that doesnt make 1 significantly bigger than the other. So I dont know why you would bring that up.

    Balls on the mind again Eze?




    Seriously do you even think before you post your **** and then go on to criticize others. Do you really think that highly of yourself? Cause its pathetic and makes you look like a *****, says a lot of your character or lack of.
     
  10. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    this is how i see it...im sure its some that probaly could go either way but thats why the fight is so intresting.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    No, but the fact that Pac gets hit more means he's more tested in this category. And the fact that fighters get hit more than those that don't generally have better chins probably indicates that Pac probably has a better chin, especially when all the real evidence leans toward him. Unless you try picking one time Marquez stunned Pac and comparing it to the punch Mosley took. The real question is, would that punch have had Floyd hurt at that weight. Of course, it was pin-point accurate. Lastly, Pac's chin seems to have improved in weight as he doesn't drain to make weight.

    So Pac can take an uppercut he doesn't see from Cotto without blinking, but Mosley takes off his head? :lol: Pac would've probably taken it better.

    It's not relevant to examine. Let's be honest.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol: Pac has great stamina, so does Floyd.

    Of course, and Pac's never been knocked out, that's just Bobby Pacquiao in the ring both times.



    No, it wasn't, if you don't know why, it's quite clear you don't watch anything but a Pac fight.

    Yes because 1 amateur fight = 1 Professional fight :roll:


    So having a 1 1/2 inch height advantage, 2 and half inch reach advantage automatically makes Floyd Valuev against Pacquiao to you. I love it. :lol:

    It's David vs Goliath right?

    He did grow, but so has Pac, I guess you don't want to acknowledge that this is a close fight, instead you want to make it out to be that Pac is defying all odds and beating Mayweather, when that is simply not the case.


    You can't simply answer the question?

    Just because something weighs more, doesn't mean it biggers.

    Mayweather isn't that much bigger than Pac.



    Seriously do you even think before you post your **** and then go on to criticize others. Do you really think that highly of yourself? Cause its pathetic and makes you look like a *****, says a lot of your character or lack of.
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I watched Pac break Cotto down, Cotto lost some sting on his punches from the beating Pac was giving him.

    I didn't say that, I said he would of been hurt worse.

    So you using the Judah fight as an example of Floyds chin and as I quote from you 'being nearly dropped' - It was more of an off balance than anything :lol:

    It's not relevant but you want to use it.

    Way to go, another hypocrite.

    I'm surprised that you didn't use Mayweather taking a knee against Hernandez as a way to prove your point. LMAO.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :patsch :lol: Are you ****ing serious? The fact his legs were out from under him probably made him get more hurt under those circumstances. Not that the landing was rough. :lol:

    So are you admitting that this category is undecided because Mayweather hasn't had the chance to face as much adversity?

    :lol: You're talking about someone's character over a message board? That's like me saying you have bad character because you lie by voting every poll option except for Pac. :lol:
     
  15. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ....................Speed - Pac
    ......................Skills - PBF
    Style (same as skills) - PBF (seen them fur shorts vs hatton?)
    ...................Stance - PBF
    ..................Stamina - Pac
    .......................Chin - Pac
    .....................Heart - Pac
    ..............Experience - Pac
    ....................Reach - PBF
    ...........Height/Taller - PBF
    Quality of Opponents - Pac
    .......Ring Generalship - PBF
    .........Corner/Trainer - Pac
    .......................Size - PBF
    .......................Age - Pac
    ...................Weight - PBF
    ....................Power - Pac
     
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