Packy McFarland Books?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Was there a general feeling here one way or the other?
     
  2. Senya13

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    There was disagreement, some picked Gans, and some Leonard, at least in late 1910s, I haven't done enough sorting out of what I have from the 1920s.
     
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    Ed Hughes argues former lightweighs including Gans vs Leonard.
    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn92051227/1920-01-10/ed-1/seq-4/
    Although Hughes was born around 1891 and may have seen Gans, but I think he started writing sports only in the 1910s, for a Newark (NJ) newspaper.

    W.O. McGeehan picks Gans
    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1920-11-19/ed-1/seq-13/
    McGeehan started writing on boxing as early as 1900 for a San Francisco newspaper

    1920-01-18 The Duluth Sunday News Tribune (Duluth, MN) (page B4)
    SAN FRANCISCO, Calif., Jan 17.--Harry Foley, the famous trainer of boxers, was asked who he thought was the greatest fighter in American ring history. "Joe Gans," he replied, without a moment's hestitation. "And I'll tell you why. I trained at Shannon's with him for many fights. One of them was with Mike Twin Sullivan. You know how he flattened the Twin. Well, on the way home, blame me if Joe didn't have a black eye. I kidded him about it. 'Well, sah,' said Joe, 'Ah been boxin' for fo'teen yeah, an' dat's de fust one of dem babies ah's evah had. An', Harry, dat's de last one. De ol' man is goin' to staht all ovah an' leahn how to box.'
    "How many of your present-day fighters would have done that. This chatter of Benny Leonard being better than Joe is silly. Why Gans would knock Leonard out just feinting him.
    "Look at what Gans did to Wolcott. And, don't tell me that Wolcott wasn't a tough laddie. Those body whangs of his were poison. I know--I stopped one of 'em and I was sore for weeks afterward.
    "Gans was the only boxer I ever saw who made no false motions. He didn't hop around the ring with a lot of that 'fancy footwork.' Every move he made in the ring meant something or he wouldn't have made it.
    "He didn't block punches or duck 'em. He actually caught them on the fly, reaching out and grabbing them in the air on his gloves, like a ball player catches a ball. Ever see the Leonards doing that?"
     
  5. McGrain

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    Very interesting.
     
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    1918-03-07 The Denver Post (Denver, CO) (page 10)
    Our old friend, Leach Cross, who is now a full fledged native son down in Los Angeles, does not agree with those who think Benny Leonard is the greatest lightweight that ever lived.
    And Leach doesn't think that Joe Gans was the greatest ever, nor that Battling Nelson, nor Kid Lavigne, nor Jack McAuliffe.
    "You ask me," says Leach, " and I'll pick Packey McFarland. Ooy, ooy, how that boy could box!
    "Oh, what a great fight he and Benny Leonard would have made. I'd pay my way in to see those two fight.
    "Who'd win? Packey. But he'd have to be at his best to whip Benny. I'd be boxing yet if it wasn't for Benny Leonard. I can lick most of these other guys yet."
     
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