Pacman sure acting guilty.

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  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Why hasn't Mayweather ever demanded that for any other fight.

    The obvious answer is that he was goofed up to the eyeballs on PEDs for all his other fights.

    Hey, now I'm really getting the hang of this reverse logic thing that all you guys are using.
     
  2. Imperial1

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    Well the whole 30 day window has been compramised from what I read I heard he was willing to take a blood test 3 days before the fight and 1 right after ..Surely they could detect something during that window ..And if its random are we certain there will be a 30 day window ? I read Bob's statments but there have been reports that they were willing to do the blood work closer to the fight just not the day before .
     
  3. dilayro

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    lol at your reply. so by what you stated, by fight night, pac is already cleansed of any drug substance which means he is not juiced up during the fight where it matter most. so what's the problem then?
     
  4. Beenie

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    I'm not calling him innocent, I'm simply asking the question how would or should an innocent person react considering the TS believes Pac to be acting guilty.

    Care to delve into the question?
     
  5. kukoy

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    And which one sir is a valid drug test?
     
  6. Beenie

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    It's not up to him to make things possible or simple nor is it up to Mayweather; it's up to the people who run this sport and to put the onus of correcting this issue on Pacquiao or any other fighter, particularly one who has no history of doping much less any tangible suspicion, is unfair and flat out wrong.
     
  7. Cobbler

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    Wow, wonder where you could have picked up such an idea?

    Tell us some other drugs testing bodies and your evaluation of their testing procedures...
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I agree. What other testing organisations would you suggest as credible?
     
  9. dilayro

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    so the testing is useless then since Pac is cleansed by fight night unless you can come up with a test that "effects" can be detected. why don't you just come into your own senses that the random blood testings are just pure harassment and just a ploy to throw off Pac with hi mind games.
     
  10. Cobbler

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    Jesus, now I have to deal with idiots on both sides.

    You don't have to have actual drugs in your system at the time of the event for your performance to have been enhanced by them. They can be used during training to allow the athlete to train harder, etc. That is why most sports maintain out of event testing as well as testing during/after events.
     
  11. Cobbler

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    They've already proposed an alternative regime and don't seem to have any problems with blood tests as long as they aren't right before the fight date.
     
  12. Cobbler

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    apparently you are hell bent on random testing by usada as an end all way of beating cheating and won't accept any other term. we wont agree to your term and understandably you won't to ours so we are at an impasse. the fight won't happen.
     
  14. Beenie

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    I realize that of course if boxing was to in fact eventually get their act together with regards to an appropriate testing procedure that at some point two fighter's will have to act as 'guinea pigs' and be the first to be subjected to strenuous testing.

    However BOXING isn't initiating the proposed tests between Pac and Mayweather. I'm not even certain if the people who run BOXING would recognize the proposed test results.

    What Mayweather is proposing is a 3rd party testing that isn't sanctioned, administered, regulated and/or ordered by any state athletic commission or governing body.

    Therefore the results aren't intended to appease boxing but to only appease Mayweather's demand.
     
  15. LastQuark

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    How do you define a valid drug test?

    A test as suggested by Floyd? Roach said they can draw blood 7 days before the fight. Pac said not the day before the fight. What more do you want? They are even willing to pay $10 million if Pac proved PED positive. Of course, Floyd declined. What a coward.