Pacquiao and math

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Jun 23, 2010.


  1. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    Care to explain if 32% of 2.4 mill ppv is Greater than 38% of 1.25 ppvs.:huh
    Care to explain how manny got a higher split but a lower pay.:deal
     
  2. jansby mac

    jansby mac Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that is all over the place to you...what IQ do you have?:patsch

    what i'm saying "drawing power is not math"
     
  3. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wow i guess oscar can tell the future then, wow i wanna ba like osacr :happy:happy:happy
     
  4. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    purse splits are always decided by who is the bigger draw. What defines a bigger draw is PPV's, live gate, sponsors and so on.

    To a lesser extent A bigger draw may accept a reduced percentage(Not a lesser percentage I hope you understand this point) if the lesser draw has some other intangibles.

    For example, it might do wonders for PBF resume if he beats pac. I say might because the excuses would roll in.

    Before PBF fought Mosley he was scared. After he fought Mosley, then Mosley became old and senile.

    Consider this please:

    If pac wins then he is the greatest thing since sliced bread, if he loses then he simply lost to Money May a sublime fighter. His resume won't be reduced at all.

    Many Pacfans on this site have stated that Pac will be rated higher than PBF even if pac loses.

    For PBF now

    If he wins he beat a smaller man, pac was tailor made for him. The result was already written on the wall based on JMM's fight(another counter puncher.

    If he loses, his stock will plummet, he lost to a midget, he was always protected etc etc.

    Therefore PBF has more to lose in this fight.

    These are all factors to determine purse split so I see your point.

    However the most important factor to decide who gets the bigger purse is ppv and live gate.

    The size of the bigger split may then be determined by other factors.
     
  5. jansby mac

    jansby mac Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Negotitations in boxing cannot be based on quatifiable data...there are always factors that cannot be put into numbers...

    if that was the case then there is no need for negotiotations....just present your numbers and go....you understand this?

    I don't want to drag this any further...this is really getting old...I guess it was my fault...you had this topic going for some 6 pages then I go in and tell you your basis if flawd....:smoke
     
  6. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    I am not saying he can. But for the purpose of may pac we have to look at it that way.

    btw PBF walked away from a rematch with ODLH because he didn't want to give May a bigger purse split.
     
  7. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exactly, thats why im asking them why the hell manny got higher split then floyd vs oscar.
     
  8. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    Quantifiable data determines the purse split easily. Then drawn out negotiations determines things like ring size, glove brand and size, top billing, who come in the ring first, Drug testing:rofl, weight penalties:yep, and catchweights:D.
     
  9. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    look that way?? please justify why oscar give floyd lower split then manny if you say it is based on PPV's alone. :good
     
  10. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    Because Floyd walked away from him and left him without a fight. He was therefore more desperate so he had to give up some of his draw leverage.
    Mannny's leverage was that Oscar had no other big current popular names to fight after PBF left him hanging.:deal

    I can guarantee you than if PBF ODLH II was made, PBF would have received more than 38%.
     
  11. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    manny never broke a 1 mil PPV before dela hoya. :good
     
  12. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    Post 173 and 179 explains it I think:think

    Nevertheless, it is not for us to decide. Whatever the purse split lets hope that the fight gets made and us as boxing fans can enjoy a rare experience of the p4p 1 and 2 fight against each other in their primes.:bbb
     
  13. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    I know so therefore the factor that Oscar couldn't find another dancing partner made him reduce his purse size.

    Therefore both quantifiable data and other factors determine the final purse split, however quantifiable data will definitely determine who gets the bigger split.
     
  14. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this i agree with you 100% :bbb, lets stop this math bull**** and pray to the boxing god that this fight gets made. :good:bbb
     
  15. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    ODH wanted to fight Pac. Floyd wanted to fight ODH since he was two weight classes down. Easy reasoning as to why Pac got 6 points more. On top of it was a lesser fight and it was EXPECTED to be lesser than Floyd/ODH. Also, ODH was a ****ing reigning champion when he fought Floyd. He was nothing when he fought Pac. Floyd had no bargaining power and ODH was his ticket to stardom. So far... he was ****ing right.