Pacquiao and Mayweather were fighting at 106 at 16 yrs old

Does'nt really matter........a fighter that goes up that many divsions in a short span will usually lose quickness, speed, power, and endurance.......

According to Pacquiao's own physical trainer Alex Ariza, the asonishing thing about Pacquiao is that he's improving in every physical dept. with age......
Pacquiao did a poor job of covering his tracks by physically locking horns with the much bigger Cotto and eating him up.......thats not something the little guy does unless he's cheating.

......thats not something that improves with age.

Over in baseball, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens statistically improved in their mid to late 30's and had better stats then than when they were in their 20's.....astonishing until it all came to light that they were under the influence of PED's.

 

Over in boxing, Manny started his ascent when he was 29, relatively still in his prime, so don't compare him to McGwire or Bonds, those guys were much older and were held suspicious not because of performance but actual witnesses or close associates ratting them out. No such thing exists for Manny other then a pack of haters looking to bring him down any way they can. If performance alone holds him suspicious, you should start a thread here to dig up the graves of Hank Armstrong and Ray Robinson and have their DNA tested for PEDs. What Pac did to Cotto is small compared to what those 2 did to much bigger men.

What Pac is doing today, Floyd has known and been doing all along: not cutting weight and staying healthy at your natural weight.

 

Yes the slowing down and losing power when you move up makes sense until you realize he's not putting on weight. The difference between then and now is that he's not cutting weight. Now people keep saying cutting weight and quickly rehydrating was what did DLH and Cotto in, I call bull**** but ehh, against Pac. So them weight draining weakens them but mysteriously its not supposed to weaken Pac. How does that work?

As for Barry Bonds and Clemens there is one major difference there is no weight class in baseball. Again Pac cut weight when he was younger and probably wasn't as good as he could have been. Also back isn't in his mid to late 30s he just hit 31 not that long ago. He was 30 when he fought Cotto. So these amazing performances you are talking about happened when he was in his late 20s and a couple of them early 30s. So whats the problem?

 

This is my way of thinking too. I really don't get caught up in title nonsense.

 

It's funny, when JMM didn't take the 750, you called it principle. When Pac did not agree to Floyd's terms, he must be cheating even though there hasn't been any proof 'til now.

 

The problem is obvious. Divac hates Pac for beating all his favorite boxers and Pac's fans for being right. It pains me I share the same city with this hater.

 

diva's anus is still sore... just your typical mexican pac hater.:yep

 

Dude don't bother. That guy can't get over the JMM fights. He once tried arguing why Pac almost knocking JMM down in the second fight demonstrated how limited Pac was and somehow, how good Marquez was. That's ****ing unreal.

 

let it go nacho! :yep

 

Wait what? How does scoring a knockdown in a fight make you a bad boxer. That's unpossible. I just don't get the guys thought process at all. Though haters thought processes never make sense to me.

 

exactly. Pac is still smaller than all these guys. He's just that much better.

 

i must be on roids, i am 20 lbs heavier today than a year ago. cant trust fastfoods nowadays, they put roids on everything.

 

We dont know what Pac weighed fightnight vs Cotto as neither of them weighed in .........

......that is'nt the point however.

When he was at 130 lbs vs JMM for example, he climbed the ring at 144 lbs....Marquez at 141 lbs.......not such a huge difference......

Look at Marquez' body vs Mayweather when he weighed at 143 lbs and look at his body when he fought Pacquiao officially weighing 130 lbs but 141 on fightnight.

......there is a huge difference in the thickness of his physique......and so to is there a huge difference in Pacquiao's physique then and now......

.......and there is reallly nothing to explain that back then Pacquiao was beating down smaller or fighters his size......when now he's beating down fighters much bigger than he is when he steps in the ring.

.......you do that because you're able to sustain energy throughout a fight.
Pacquiao is fighting bigger men like Cotto but being able to sustain energy even though he's punching at a bigger man........that is steroid use, no getting around it.......

Pacquiao actually had his chance to get around it but refused to prove to the world he was fighting clean!

 

he doesn't need to prove to the world he is clean any more than anyone else. Pac just needs to get into the best fighting shape possible like everyone else and put on the best performance he can. The only people who really accuse him of roiding are people who weren't fans of his in the first place

 

What the hell does this "sentance" mean. He's beating up bigger guys so that takes more energy and he can't sustain it what? That entire thing doesn't make any sense. Add that to the fact steroids don't increase stamina and this entire sentence is as wrong as you can be.