Absolutely a thread post of a JC fan. The word Envy comes to it. Get that P4P rank if Calzaghe wants it badly, Pac doesn't need it anyway cos the boy simply wants to fight the best there is out there.
Who the hell is going to listen to this clown. My man, clearly your mind aint right and your eyes are beyond shot. If you think for one second that that ugly, fat ass cow in your avatar is pleasing to the eyes and worth displaying then you absolutely have lost all your credibility
Well, he started at 108 w/ no formal training in boxing. It's normal for any boxer to start fighting prospects until he's recognized by the boxing gurus. But if you talk about Pacquiao now, he deserves to be the #1 P4P for beating the HOFs.
Who is this Nallege who just popped out of nowhere and has been spewing venom of hate against Pacquiao since his day one in ESB? What has Pac done to him or his family? Is Nallege ALLBLACK the North Korean who's envious of the success of fellow Asian? Is he Amsterdam who's a hardcore Pacquiao hater? Did his wife left him for Pac? Anyone who has a clue who this clown is?
I'd go with DLH myself but your're a ****ing clown dude. If you think that PAC has a padded record you mistaken. Get a grib bro. PAC has faught the best of the best and won. Given your logic damn near everyone has a padded record if guys like EM, MAB, JMM ect are guys that are meant to "Pad" someones record. And JMM go lucky to have even ben "GIVEN" the draw in the first fight....the 2nd fight was just a clear cut "W" for PAC in a close, competitive fight.
it was not said but implied.. cal beating jones. a win is a win but you are kidding yourself if you think jones is still prime. yes, he maybe 2 yrs older than calz but you know very well that what you saw of rjj of 2000's is totally just a fraction of of rjj of 2008's... Like if Bhop wins over RJJ now doesn't matter anymore! Coz the bhop that in 2008 is totally different that beat him before the 2000's. yes, calz beat two great names but it came a little to late coz calz win came in the TWILIGHT years of the career of the said two great boxers. BTW, who on earth will believe that they are in their prime?! So all I can say is a win is a win.... but to bad calz can't get all the possible credit he can get from those great names simply because the win came a little to late.....In the twilight of their careers!
[/quote] I bring it up because other have started that young and were undefeated. We don't count those losses of PAc anyway, but if you mention that he did win a flyweight title, then you have to mention who he lost to. Diaz was a bum, and Jones was finished! Pac didn't beat the true lightweight champ just as Jones didn't beat the true heavyweight champ. I can tell you this, Ruiz was better than Diaz. There are posters out there who think that Jones beating Ruiz is a great win, and it is, but Jones didn't beat Lennox. [/quote] Keeping everything in perspective PAC was a young boy fighting in the Philipines.....the Philipines do NOT have strong boxing history or background...aside from a couple of world champions Boxing wasn't the premeir sport. PAC winning the fly weight title under the kind of training and direction in the philipines is worth it's weight in gold., THat kind of **** just doens't happen without the proper training or enviornment. Yet PAC had something special that enabled him to get to the level he's at today....losses included. THey made him a better fighter,. Diaz a bum? It's easy to call a young former world champion a bum since you are a dominating figure in boxing who hold more than one title right?:yep Look.....no one said Diaz was a ATG but he's is far from a bum. He's rugid and raw himself and he never...NEVER been dominated like PAC dominated him. That speaks volumes...ROy was done when Joe beat him, but Roy also as done as he is was still able to compete against top level opposition and win....of course we are use to DOMINATION by Roy but he's been declining. It was a good win for Joe none the less...just not as meaningful had he faught roy in his prime. Regarless who was the Linear champ, Ruiz and Diaz were both holding portion of the championship crown. They earned their titles and with the polotics of boxing its hard to find a UNIFIED CHamp! You fight the best opposition available and you'll get the credit you deserve..HENCE PAC!:deal And Diaz is better than Ruiz bro. #1...Ruiz is a HW...THe HW picture is not made up of highly skilled fighters. THey are made up of BIG men who use their physical advantages to win...Height, weight, reach ect....that is why the HW division is in the state it is now. THe lower wieght classes have more talent, competition and serious boxers! Lower weight class fighter have to have some skills to compete against their peers b/c the power that the HW's rely on are not as common with smaller fighters, so they need skills to fall back on. Diaz is by far a better boxer than Ruiz.....Ruiz may be a more difficult opponent to fight due to his "GRAB AND JAB" tatics but that has nothing to do with skills..anyone can do it but most don't feel compfortable winning in such an ugly fashion. Roy couldn't be LL....the size disparity and physical advantages in power and wieght would just be far too much for Jones to Overcome....even in his prime IMO....but I didn't know if Jones could beat Ruiz either. But he did.
I bring it up because other have started that young and were undefeated. We don't count those losses of PAc anyway, but if you mention that he did win a flyweight title, then you have to mention who he lost to. Diaz was a bum, and Jones was finished! Pac didn't beat the true lightweight champ just as Jones didn't beat the true heavyweight champ. I can tell you this, Ruiz was better than Diaz. There are posters out there who think that Jones beating Ruiz is a great win, and it is, but Jones didn't beat Lennox. [/quote] Keeping everything in perspective PAC was a young boy fighting in the Philipines.....the Philipines do NOT have strong boxing history or background...aside from a couple of world champions Boxing wasn't the premeir sport. PAC winning the fly weight title under the kind of training and direction in the philipines is worth it's weight in gold., THat kind of **** just doens't happen without the proper training or enviornment. Yet PAC had something special that enabled him to get to the level he's at today....losses included. THey made him a better fighter,. Diaz a bum? It's easy to call a young former world champion a bum since you are a dominating figure in boxing who hold more than one title right?:yep Look.....no one said Diaz was a ATG but he's is far from a bum. He's rugid and raw himself and he never...NEVER been dominated like PAC dominated him. That speaks volumes...ROy was done when Joe beat him, but Roy also as done as he is was still able to compete against top level opposition and win....of course we are use to DOMINATION by Roy but he's been declining. It was a good win for Joe none the less...just not as meaningful had he faught roy in his prime. Regarless who was the Linear champ, Ruiz and Diaz were both holding portion of the championship crown. They earned their titles and with the polotics of boxing its hard to find a UNIFIED CHamp! You fight the best opposition available and you'll get the credit you deserve..HENCE PAC!:deal And Diaz is better than Ruiz bro. #1...Ruiz is a HW...THe HW picture is not made up of highly skilled fighters. THey are made up of BIG men who use their physical advantages to win...Height, weight, reach ect....that is why the HW division is in the state it is now. THe lower wieght classes have more talent, competition and serious boxers! Lower weight class fighter have to have some skills to compete against their peers b/c the power that the HW's rely on are not as common with smaller fighters, so they need skills to fall back on. Diaz is by far a better boxer than Ruiz.....Ruiz may be a more difficult opponent to fight due to his "GRAB AND JAB" tatics but that has nothing to do with skills..anyone can do it but most don't feel compfortable winning in such an ugly fashion. Roy couldn't be LL....the size disparity and physical advantages in power and wieght would just be far too much for Jones to Overcome....even in his prime IMO....but I didn't know if Jones could beat Ruiz either. But he did.[/quote] great post :thumbsup :good