Pacquiao's Power Amazes Ariza

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  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I can't mentally bring myself down to your level, I can't talk about the explanation of how ridiculous witch hunts are.
    If you don't understand mob mentality, then you're part of the mob mentality.
     
  2. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    their is nothing they can respond to all of that with because those are facts that are undeniable that pin manny in to a corner of guilt, so pac fans have to resort to lame excuses like we cant prove he hasnt been on anything for the last 20 years, im happy you can see what im saying
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Hold on. Roger Mayweather saying silly **** on a radio show is a far cry from Bob Arum, Manny's promoter, lying on record about the negotiations. Roger has had a history of saying stupid silly **** in the past, when has Roach ever been caught out like he was regarding the 5 day cut off date? "We need 5 days". Then Manny says no to 14, and Roach says there was no 14 days? ...Come on, it's not easily explained, Roach ain't no crackhead like Roger Mayweather.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I understand, it's hard to justify a lot of what came out of the Manny camp.
     
  5. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    you cant elevate yourself intellectually to respond to facts with some concrete evidence to diffuse it that is the problem , your just a pac fan who really doesnt know much outside of manny pacquaio, im actually well versed on my knowledge and their is no way you could compete
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Have'nt you heard Addie......rumor has it that allegations running about Pacquiao juicing are "baseless.":deal

    ......should'nt that be good enough for all of us?:think
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Well, I don't find it too funny that the Boxing world is doing **** all about this. If a fighter refuses random blood testing, then there should be an action put in place to have every single fighter subjected to this testing. It can only benefit the sport, surely? We have professionals telling us what a joke the drug testing has been over the years, soon as Mosley and Toney were busted, things should have changed right then and there.
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I could only surmise that at a certain point, they realized that it was all a ploy. The whole blood testing thing is a sham reasoned to upset Manny.

    Look at the timeline of events. First Snr goes off and accuses Manny of roids. Then they ask for blood testing, only to later up the ante and demand USADA. While this happens, you have Roger, then Jeff corroborate it with their own accusations.

    It was a planned and tactical move on the Mayweathers part. I tend to think when Arum realized this he just said **** it and wasn't going to play along anymore.

    Ask yourself this. If you were really, honestly concerned about Manny being a cheat. Would you send people from your group to directly accuse him on your behalf and drag him thru coals w/o any proof, and then wrap it all up by demanding extreme blood testing. The kind that no body does, ever except in a very extreme beta test.

    Is this how you go about asking for blood testing?
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hey!......Manny is no cheater, those accusations are "baseless"!!!:deal:deal:deal:hey
     
  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Oh, so all the sudden you need proof to accuse someone of something? Don't think so.
    Welcome to the real world!
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  11. Jetmax

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    Manny is a cheater! He's on A-meth man! A-meth! Nobody can deny that. FACT!:deal
     
  12. keure

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    i cant mentall bring myself down to explain translates to their is no explanation that is good enough to cover pac for this one, even from a guy who is as biased as lukeo cant explain it with some diluted bs that most pac fans resort to, so the silence from pac fans is all the answer you need, it is the same answer everyone who is just a boxing fan and not an overwhelmingly biased pac fan has already arrived at, im gonna get immature for a minute and let all the pac fans know they were officially owned by all of my recent threads and thank them for the intellectual responses and lack their of
     
  13. arsabs

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    "Oscar De La Hoya can show the world how a righteous PED-free fighter acts. In order to fully inform the public on the issues involved (and remove any hint of suspicion that he himself might not have clean hands) Oscar should waive his right to confidentiality and authorize the Nevada State Athletic Commission to release the results of any tests for performance enhancing drugs that he has taken in the past. The same waiver should authorize all present and past NSAC personnel and any other person with knowledge of the situation to discuss the test results with any media representative who inquires about them.


    I’m not talking about Lidocaine (which Oscar acknowledges having taken when he suffered a cut prior to his 2004 fight against Bernard Hopkins). Nor am I talking about creatine (which Lem Satterfield, then of the Baltimore Sun, authoritatively reported that Oscar incorporated into his training regimen in 1999 when he was preparing to fight Felix Trinidad).

    I’m talking about the possibility of something more.

    Let me even suggest wording for the waiver that Oscar can make public and send to the Nevada State Athletic Commission:

    “I, Oscar De La Hoya, hereby waive all right of confidentiality with regard to the past testing of my blood and urine for steroids and other performance enhancing drugs conducted by or on behalf of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. In that regard, I also authorize all present and past Nevada State Athletic Commission personnel and any other person with knowledge of the situation to speak openly with the media about such testing.”

    To paraphrase: “C’mon, Oscar. If you have nothing to hide, then do it. It’s only a piece a paper. Just sign the waiver





    :thinka look at the other side of the fence.
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    lmao.

    An internet factless witch hunt!
    Too priceless.
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't care what Mayweather's reasons were for asking for the tests...if Manny wanted out after they realized it was a ploy, they could have done that without all of the contradictions. Roach and Arum are the kind of characters to go on camera and say, "**** Mayweather, it's all a sham, we'll fight someone else". Instead they maintained throughout that they wanted the fight, but all along they were all saying different things...and Manny never did any random testing. He said No. That makes no sense to me. They wanted to save face? ...They really did that with their failure to communicate didn't they?

    I like it how you say "extremeee testing". Dude, a spoon full of blood...at random times..anywhere before 14 days prior to the fight. 45 million dollar fight? Biggest in history? Most of the other demands were made by you anyway? ...You really want to shut this dude up who's making a mockery out of your name but instead of clearing it by taking the tests, by kicking his ass, you file a lawsuit and fight Clottey, who's a top rank fighter.