Paul Williams Chin Must Now be Considered Questionable

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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    That or move them into the suggestions forum.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Dec 6, 2009
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  2. IVLG

    IVLG OBJECTIVITY IS BACK LOL Full Member

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    For PW and his camp to keep expunging the lies that he is so Avoided my question had always been why didn't he ever fight James Kirkland.:huh:huh
     
    IVLG, Dec 6, 2009
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  3. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Why?? People are allowed to assert - without ANY way to PROVE it - that "that punch woulda KOed anyone" :lol What's wrong with a far more PLAUSIBLE explanation (particularly if it happens more than once) that some fighters just don't have very good chins??

    The jury is still out on Wiliams. But at this point, any reasonable person would have doubts.
     
    Zakman, Dec 6, 2009
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  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :patsch Ali was never considered a big puncher either. Speed kills.
     
    elchivito, Dec 6, 2009
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  5. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Because Kirkland is low reward and high risk.

    And after what we saw last night, if Kirkland comesback as the same fighter that fought Julio, Williams would not see past Rd.5 against him.
     
    Boom_Boom, Dec 6, 2009
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  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The ironic thing is, Team Williams said (pre-jail) Kirkland was too unknown to fight Williams. Yes, this coming from Team Williams who calls out any big name in 3 divisions and then claims to be ducked if they say no thanks.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Dec 6, 2009
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  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I don't know if it's a chin issue, or troube with fast hands. You mentioned Pavlik, so let's take an example from there. Taylor put Pavlik on ***** street, but Miranda, who obviously hits much harder than JT, couldn't buy a blink with his life savings. Speed kills!

    But ya, regardless, Pavlik KO5 Williams, but I don't base that on last night.
     
    booradley, Dec 6, 2009
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  8. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    This glass jaw **** is really starting to **** me off, just because you get knocked down it doesn't mean you have a glass jaw. It generally doesnt matter how good your chin is if you get caught on the button with a good shot or a punch you don't see coming.
     
    Furey, Dec 6, 2009
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  9. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    zakman are you the only member of the zelenoff fan club?
     
    paloalto00, Dec 6, 2009
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  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I don't understand this. Lots of fighters have shaky chins, and glass jaws. Why is that a reason to get "pissed off??" :huh It's part of boxing.

    Incidentally, I'm not saying Williams chin is glass. That's not clear yet. But his chin IS questionable after getting decked hard by a light hitter. It remains to be seen if this is merely a blip on the radar, or whether a pattern emerges.
     
    Zakman, Dec 6, 2009
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  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I think the Pavlik/Williams fight happens and after last night I think Williams gets KTFO.

    I like Williams nothing against him but one has to wonder after last night.

    The GREAT think about all this is we will eventually find out the answer it will no longer be speculation.

    Also I continue to laugh at the people on here that refuse to acknowledge the importance of punch resistance.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Dec 6, 2009
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  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    What's even weirder is people who seem to be upset about fans pointing out the existence of glass jaws in boxing. It's like they are so FAR in denial of reality that when someone points it out they are like those "Hear NO Evil, See No Evil" types - utterly disconnected from the reality that LOTS of fighters have shaky chins!!! :lol:
     
    Zakman, Dec 6, 2009
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  13. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Doesn't last night show he has a good chin. Damn, Zak and Rico always hoping to hear the sound of shattered glass makes them delusional.
     
    Jeff M, Dec 6, 2009
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  14. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    God I hate the general forum.
     
    CASH_718, Dec 6, 2009
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  15. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Speed and timing are important. You don't have to be a monster to hurt someone else, even if they have a good chin.
     
    Jeff M, Dec 6, 2009
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