Pavlick is over rated!

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  1. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    :lol:

    You're mom jokes???

    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


    So how was elementary school this afternoon??

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    Its too bad I'm not you're age.... we could have had anice little after school rumble:rofl
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I agree about "most devastating puncher" being too far, but clearly? The kid can punch and his skills are under rated IMO! Trinidad?? :D I loved Tito back in the day, but Kelly isnt as one dimensional.:nono

    He showed very good skills vs Taylor, did you really see that jab?? When you have real power and you set it up?? Its a very formidable combination:good Perhaps you and I can have a FRIENDLY avatar bet on this if it happens someday.:yep

    Again, my bottomline here is the "over rated" talk is ridiculous and as I indicated? I'd say the same if Pavlik and Dawson switched places.

    As for Dawson being hurt?? It went through his legs and trust me, that indicates you're hurt. Doesnt mean you're done, but does indicate instability. Had the same kind of thing happen to me one time and argued with my best friend all the way home, until we watched the tape:yep I didnt go down, and came back, but for a couple seconds??:lol: I watched myself do a brief funky chicken:rofl Dawson was legitimately hurt vs Adamek, even though he dominated the MAJORITY of that fight.

    I dont hate Dawson, but I do believe that a guy like Pavlik would apply enough effective pressure, combined with KO power, to beat him.
     
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    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I trusted Ledermans' scoring, or the other announcers over those braindead scoring judges......they were clueless
     
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    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good comment:yep
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    :D

    As I told KG, I'd defend Dawson in the same situation.

    I'm not entirely sold on dawson as THE REAL DEAL:nono
    No doubt he's among the top 5 for sure and might even win the crown, but I believe his chin is far from granite. He's slick but will he fold under questioning??????
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    One of em was Lederman's daughter:lol:

    Wonder what that review was like??

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    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    Ive watched lots of fights in my life, and i think that it was one of those fights where it depends what you like in scoring. Taylor was controlling with his jab, and good flurries off the ropes, Pavlik was sticking him with the harder straight right. It was a close fight, anyone that acts like Taylor was getting whitewashed is a true hugger.
     
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    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't know that.. = :oops:
     
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    Pro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah let him get his 15 minutes of fame he won't be in the spotlight to much longer
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    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't forget, Dawson can punch a little too....

    Either way, I will take you up on the bet if it ever happens. You have a deal:good
     
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    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pavlik is, if anything, under-rated. Look at the facts. At 25 years of age he beat the lineal champ at 160, but he has never been past round 9. His last 6 opponents had a combined 163 fights with 116 KO's. Of his last 6 opponents 5 of them had never been knocked out before, but when Pavlik put the hammer down on them, it was OVER. Kelly "The Ghost" Pavlik has climbed in the professional prize fighting ring 32 times, and 29 times score cards were irrelevant. The last guy who went the distance with Pavlik (November 2004) never fought again! Not bad for a 25 year old kid who is probably 2 to 3 years away from his peak!

    You can say what you want about his defense, but when did you ever see him with his face all ****ed up? Answer; never. A few cuts and bruise, but never anything serious. He does not slip many punches. His style is to catch them on his gloves and arms. Watch close. his defense is a lot better than people give him credit for.

    I have watched Pavlik/Taylor 6 times. Each time I've come out with a slightly different score. AT BEST Taylor was 1 point ahead going into the 7th round. To say Taylor won every round is ludicrous. That really does not make a hill of **** anyway. Think back to one Danny "Little Red" Lopez. He used to go down nearly every fight, but he successfully defended his WBC Featherweight title 9 times in just over 4 years, and it took no less a fighter than Salvador Sanchez to knock the king off his throne. When Pavlik finally loses his zero it will be a similar story. He will find himself in the ring with a really slick boxer who has enough power to make Kelly respect him. However, that ain't nobody who is at 160 today: There is no Salvador Sanchez or SRL type fighter in Kelly's discernible future.

    Based on what Kelly has said rather than other peoples bull**** and speculation, we can expect him to become the unified champ at 160 over the next couple years. Unless of course Sturm keeps his title by refusing to fight Kelly. When Pavlik moves to 168, which seems inevitable, he will be just as much of a monster as he is now, and he will very quickly acquire a major title. If current trends continue, and I believe they will, he will not lose until he hits 175 at around age 30. Take that to the ****ing bank!

    Boo
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    :good
    I rate you as a knowledgeable and competent poster!!! If you lose? Dont fear the ridiculous and I'd expect the same in return:good

    Of course, you could choose whatever, but you know I'm the type to COME BACK 4 MORE:yep Not always right, but I get my fair share:good

    BTW?? And i mean this respectfully, why dont you join Amsterdam's prediction league? We are always looking for the best competition:yep :happy
     
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    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He asked me and honestly, I spaced on it. Right now I am involved in that WeBL (Boxing league) that Flatlander invited me to, and that takes up alot of time along with my Fantasy Football league. But I need to get involved. Gonna be out of the country from Nov 2 to Nov 11, so I will look into it when I get back.

    Yeah, I'll do respectful avatar bets, nothing special or any of the "gay" stuff. We'll keep it real. Good show as always.
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Ahhhh... coming back on my B-Day!!!!:lol:

    All i want??? Is a Hatton victory!! Too bad thats a month away!!!

    As for the league?? It requires about 15 minutes a week, including decision time(except in those special weeks where you might spend 30 or so agonizing over you're favorite vs what might happen).

    I've absolute confidence you can find the time:yep Spreading the WORD?? Well thats PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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