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Pavlik/Hopkins Finalized

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Imperial1 said:

Well see on Oct 18th ..Its going to look like Hopkins Trinidad watch
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Bull****!!! :rofl

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BewareofDawg said:

Great Post :good
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Remarkable post! I mean that far surpassed anything that I could have posted for the majority of the fighters that i actually follow--awesome!:happy

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Bull****!!! :rofl
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Cough (Real **** ):rofl

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Imperial1 said:

Well see on Oct 18th ..Its going to look like Hopkins Trinidad watch
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Ya sure -- because Pavlik is a blown up welterweight, right?

booradley, Jul 23, 2008

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I'm not surprised that quite a few people are picking BHop to win. Pavlik has accumulated quite a number of haters and critics. Many people just can't wait to see him lose. Moreover, the Calzaghe fans need BHop to look good. If Pavlik takes Hopkins out, or scores a clear UD, many would interpret that as meaning that Pavlik is as good as, or better than, Joe.

Let me explode a few myths here:

Myth number 1: Pavlik is one dimensional. He had an amature record of 89-8, but was not a big puncher until about the time he turned 17. As a pro he beat Miranda by being a better bully than Miranda. He beat McKart by boxing smartly from the outside. He beat Zuniga by winning a war mostly fought on the inside. He beat Taylor the first time mostly by captilizing on Taylor's flaws. If that's one-dimensional, it's okay by me.

Myth number 2: Pavlik has no plan B. The second Taylor fight was arguably the best performance of Jermains career. Pavlik injured BOTH hands. The injuries cut down his work rate, and took away his best weapons. He could not use the usual power jabs, and had to conserve the right hand. He still boxed his way to a clear UD.

Myth number 3: Pavlik just plods forward. People who say that are either haters, or they just don't know much about boxing. Pavlik's footwork is one of the most under-rated facets of his game. He inches forward carefully behind a very good jab, 1-2 combos, and lead rights. He also cuts off the ring extemely well. I would challenge anyone to name a single instance when Pavlik got himself in trouble by "plodding forward."

Myth number 4: Pavlik has a questionable chin. Zuniga has 2 losses on his record. One to Santos, and one to Pavlik. He also has an 80% KO ratio. Pavlik took zuniga's best shots, and stopped Zuniga in 9 rounds. Pavlik ate Miranda's best shots like they were Skittles. Kelly took 15 unanswered shots from Taylor, and stopped JT in seven. All the quetsions about Pavlik's chin have been answered.

BHop is a tough night for anyone, but mark my words, Pavlik will beat him by a clear UD or a late TKO. He'll do a good job of staying out of range, and that will take away Bernard's favorite weapons; the clinch, the head butt, and the counter right. Hopkins will start gassing out by mid rounds, by round 9 or 10 Pavlik will move in for the kill, and bounce Hopkins around the ring like a little kid bounces one of those red rubber balls around a play ground.
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Remarkable post! I mean that far surpassed anything that I could have posted for the majority of the fighters that i actually follow--awesome!:happy

Miguelito, Jul 23, 2008

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booradley said:

Ya sure -- because Pavlik is a blown up welterweight, right?
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No but he is a plodder just like Tito

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Imperial1 said:

No but he is a plodder just like Tito
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Talking to you is like talking to a hemlock stump.

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BHOP by UD, this fight is not gonna go the way people think its gonna go

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IMO stupid matchmaking.

just as i thought calzaghe was wrong to go the hopkins route, i think team pavlik are stupid for going this route as well.
a no win fight for him IMO,he will not look good win or lose,and might not have the experience to stop hopkins messing him around.

pavlik needs a strict ref on hopkins, will have to either lighten up on his feet, or try to walk through hopkins , which i think he should , and let his hands go as much as he can before the clinch to stop hopkins setting traps .

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booradley said:

Pavlik/Hopkins is a done deal now. There is an article on the scene where they talk bout boxing.
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We'll enjoy your vanishing once Pavlik gets crushed.

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I thinks its hilarious that people actually think that Kelly will KO Hopkins when he's never been hurt or stopped in over a decade ..

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Imperial1 said:

I thinks its hilarious that people actually think that Kelly will KO Hopkins when he's never been hurt or stopped in over a decade ..
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Assuming that Pavlik's hands hold up Benard wil be number 7 on the growing list of guys who had never been stopped.

booradley, Jul 23, 2008

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Times up for Pavlik. This **** is about to end. For once, I may just root for old Mary.

TFFP, Jul 23, 2008

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Amsterdam said:

We'll enjoy your vanishing once Pavlik gets crushed.
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How's he gonna get crushed Amsterdam?

Be real.

Didn't you read my original thread.

****.

BITCH ASS, Jul 23, 2008

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TFFP said:

Times up for Pavlik. This **** is about to end. For once, I may just root for old Mary.
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Nope -- time to retire that Calzaghe blow-up doll Iceland. Pavlik is gonna show the world just how ineffective and sloppy Joe really is. To bad he has to do it at the expense of a living legend.

booradley, Jul 23, 2008

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