Pavlik vs. Sergio Mora... THIS SUCKS!

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hate that **** when HBO pulls that "Hype" crap by putting two big name fighters on the same card to fight / KO bums or stiffs............ Remember back in 1990 when Foreman KO'd Adilson Rodrigues and Mike Tyson offed Henry Tillman on the same bill.?.?.? That card stunk..... That's just ONE example of bad matchmaking..... That stuff has been goin' on for yrs..... Peace.....

    MR.BILL

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    "Pavlik-Abraham" is regular HBO / Showtime in my book...... That match is NOT worthy of serious PPV attention...... NO WAY!!!
     
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  2. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    I think people keep forgetting that the Pac/Hatton fight will be taking the boxing dollars in May and summer is not the time to try and sell a big fight. HBO won't back Pavlik/Abraham until fall probably. Relax guys. It is summer vacation for the boxers too. :lol:
     
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  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    To be fair, Mora has only had two or three fights at 154, he's usually at 160.

    There's no doubt this is a total mismatch though.
     
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  4. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I see nothing wrong with the fight

    Pavlik is in Mora's class...
     
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  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  7. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    While I see your point, last year Cotto/Margo did 500K in July.

    Personally as long as they hold true to their commitment to air Abraham/Lorenzo before the Pavlik card gets going, I'm happy.
     
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  8. Hermit

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    Cotto/Margo had a built in PPV base. Pac/Hatton fighting the same night wouldn't have affected it that much.
     
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  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Cotto-Margo" was a for sure winner in the making..... Nobody doubted it would sell on PPV.............:D

    "Pavlik-Abraham" will tank on PPV in sales..... I bet they struggle with 250k buys.......:hi:

    SR.BILL:yikes
     
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  10. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Solid point. My argument was just that it's not impossible to sell a PPV during the summer time.

    I would really prefer to see this on Showtime instead of PPV.

    Ya know this is one instance where it would've paid off for Arum to hold onto that deal with Versus.
     
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  11. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HBO did. They didn't even think it was fiscally worth it to make a Countdown show.

    More proof HBO was thinking ass backwards last year.
     
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  12. larrysmith

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    yea pavliks title run has been terrible..and people complained when jermain was champ
     
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  13. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Regardless of Kelly Pavlik being a white boy from Ohio, he still hasn't caught the imagination of the entire nations sporting interest...... Bob Arum pushed Kelly onto PPV very quickly to see how the American public was fishing..... Kelly Pavlik is doing fine for himself, but that loss to B-Hops did hurt his marketability rather harsh for PPV sales..... Kelly Pavlik is NOT a solid household PPV fighter in the states at this point..... Pavlik is still a mid-west fighter with a building reputation.....

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  14. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavliks title defenses are awful.
     
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  15. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed I see your point. Absolutely.

    People like Pavlik when he's in competitive fights. His first fight with Taylor was the most viewed live WCB fight on HBO. Since then it's been all downhill since then. Barely 225K against Taylor II on PPV and a massive ratings stinker against WBO "mandated" Pocket Rocket Lockett. Hopkins-Pavlik did so badly that if forced HBO to change its PPV procedure.

    If you put Pavlik in big fights, he'll draw..otherwise he's not a big enough name to sell himself.
     
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