PBF is just too dam good.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by teke, Dec 8, 2007.


  1. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Do you realise you just agreed with Greenghost.

    He said Mundine had a similar fighting style to PBF and you said the similarities end with their annoying media persona and counter punching style :lol::lol:
     
  2. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Since when does p4p no.1 make you unbeatable in boxing? Someone obviously forgot to tell that to Vernon Forrest when he beat Mosley, or Tarver when he beat Jones. Cotto v Mayweather is a pick em fight. I'm not the only one to think so either, ask any of the top posters in the general forum..
     
  3. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Floyd should be favoured over Cotto and Williams, especially Williams, he's vulnerable to both Floyd and Cottos' bodypunching, since it brings down his best asset as a fighter, his workrate.
     
  4. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    His post spoke about talent, which insinuates that they are comparable in this regard. They clearly are not. PBF is 10x the technical fighter Mundine is. Jungle boy and Ricardo Mayorga would both be considered brawlers. Does this mean they are necessarily comparable as fighters? Clearly not. There are pleny of counter punchers in boxing mate? Do you think Mundine is comparable to Cory Spinks, or JMM, or Casamayor or Chad Dawson, or Paulie Malignaggi or Wlad Klitchsko? They are all counter punches, yet there are obviously MASSIVE differences in their respective styles. Your post has more holes then swiss cheese.
     
  5. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    How is floyd, a defensive counter puncher going to work the body against the taller, longer southpaw williams? I am puzzled. I must have missed the fights where Floyd has closed the distance against taller opponents and broken them down to the body....
     
  6. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Who said unbeateable?? not me. I said he is the best in boxing by miles and he is. No use having the P4P system if we cant say who is the best :cool:

    "Ask any of the Top posters in the General Forum?" What kind of statement is that?

    I happen to think Cotto will give PBF a tough fight but he wouldnt win. He had trouble with a fighter 10 yrs his senior in Mosley.
     
  7. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    I've certainly seen him close the gap with quality taller opponents (Corrales), after that Floyd should be able to pick his punches against Williams who isn't particularly hard to hit. Williams is also relatively scrappy, there'll be plenty of chances to find good counters.
     
  8. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    I understand what you wrote and agree.

    I took Greenghosts post as saying Mundine fights like PBF and has great talent, isnt that what you think??? Thats what i thought and before you answer 10 months ago you stated Mundine fights more like PBF than RJJ :deal:deal:deal

    My argument has more holes than swiss cheese...WTF I had no argument :huh
     
  9. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    You're assuming PBF would wait and counter punch all night. People assumed RJJ would sit back and counter punch Richard Hall all night too, you and I know what happened there.
     
  10. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    I must have seen a different fight then. All i saw was floyd countering with left hooks, leading with right hands and using a very fast jab with great lateral movement against Corrales. The only body punch he through was a jab downstairs, which worked because Corrales is a PRESSURE fighter. Williams is a boxer who looks to utilise reach. Massive difference. I agree with you though that Floyd will have opportunites to counter, and I think he wins this fight through DEFENSE. No way he will outwork Williams, or trade with Williams, or get inside on Wiliams consistently. He will use great defence, and pick his punches and put on a boxing masterclass. It will be a close fight though IMO, as the reach and volume of Williams, couple with the southpaw style is sure to give PBF problems. The shoulder role in particular is no where near as effective against southpaws.
     
  11. pecks

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    I'd take Floyd over Cotto if they were to fight. It'd be a good fight, but Cotto just simply isn't good enough. No shame in that.
     
  12. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr was a far better offensive fighter then Floyd though. Earlier in his career he would totally decimate guys solely through offense like Antoine Byrd for instance. To break it down for you- Floyd is not Roy, Hall is not Williams. Floyd is more defensive then Roy, and Williams is frankly just BETTER then hall.
     
  13. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Fighting more like PBF then Roy doesn't mean he fights like FLoyd though. I could say Miguel Cotto fights more like Kostya Tzsyu then Roy Jones also, but that doesn't mean Cotto fights anything like Kostya Tszyu. Regardless, I took his post as saying that Mundine should be achieving like Floyd, because of similarities in style and talent. If this were the case, Mundine would be on another level then what he is. Mudine is very good, however Floyd is great.
     
  14. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Mosley troubled Cotto with his offense though, which is something Floyd can't do. Cotto has most trouble against guys with great offensive abilities, as his defence is obviously his biggest weakness. Mosley is IMO a superior offensive fighter to floyd, although not the same level with defence. Mosley is still a top level fighter no doubt. The reason I said the general forum comment is because will start slinging nut hugger calls, when I have IMO looked at this objectively.
     
  15. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Understand and Agree with everything you said.

    I think PBF vs Mosley at the moment would be very lopsided. Mosley just gets hit way too much. I hope im a Top Poster you inuthugger.

    BTW when is Mundine fighting? This is a serious question too