PBF vs Big Show in a REAL boxing match

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  1. this bloke

    this bloke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah my bad didntb read your entire posts
     
  2. Drexl

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    But we have never had an example where it is 150lb vs 400+lb.

    If we have, show me.
     
  3. MON

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    Big Show will have no footwork, no idea how to time a punch, no idea how to throw a proper punch and no actual boxing skill and will have one of the fastest boxers in the world buzzing around him.

    Mayweather wins. He won't land much, but neither will Big Show.

    Do all 400 pound men beat Floyd because of their size?? Surely they will because size>>>skill in your eyes??
     
  4. joe33

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    Big show would get frustrated by not being able to land on him and taking tons of punches that would if he did not do something about them make him look a right charlie,and probaly say "**** this ****" pick him up and slam him through the ring floor
     
  5. dangerousity

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    Like I said, you have that view because of how your pogrammed to think based on what you seen. Had there not been open weight classes i the beggining of MMA, everyone would think the LW's stand no chance against HW's. However it was proven that the much more skilled Gracie won despite being outweight 300lb by some of his opponents. Now, everyone has become more skilled as they caught on, the talent pool has gotten alot bigger. Therefore the weight difference had to be taken as an issue because the skill disparity is no longer as huge. Thats when they introduced weight classes. Its all about talent pool, Big show comes from a very very small talent pool as not many men exist at 400lb.

    What would trouble Floyd most is his height rather than his weight. Ive personally seen a 125lb guy KO a 220lb man, with ease. One was a newbie and the other had 1years exp. Ive seen 140lb men hit harder than HW's, if you think a HW can hit harder than big show then surely 140lb man can hit harder than big show. I cant change what Ive seen and experienced so cant change my opinion on that...
     
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    Even good boxers often have big problems against much smaller boxers in the "boxing ring" but with a size difference like this you are all just guessing the outcome--the big guy does move pretty fast in the video.
    There is only one way to find out the truth but the truth will never be revealed in pro wrestling as some seem to believe.
     
  7. dangerousity

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    Weve never had it because they dont allow it. If they never allowed 220lb men to box with 320lb men, you would be using the same example too. If a 220lb boxer can beat a 320lb boxer (pro world champ) then id bet my right leg than a 147lb p4p best boxer can beat a 400lb none boxer.
     
  8. Drexl

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    NO!

    Not all 400 pound men beat floyd.
    And Size is NOT greater than skill in my eyes.

    But there reaches a point where skill cannot overcome the size difference, if the bigger man has some kind of physical conditioning and basic co-ordination.
     
  9. Drexl

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    Any 400lb non-boxer off the street, absolutely.

    But if the non-boxer had been training for his whole life in some form of combat sport and was give a proper training camp?











    Whatever. If you disagree, I give up. I'm saddened.
     
  10. MON

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    Drexl, who do you think hits harder, Hatton or Big Show?

    Do you think if Mayweather hits Big Show clean to the body that he can't drop him?
     
  11. dangerousity

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    Well im glad that we can atleast agree on the non boxer issue as I thought initially that you were simply implying that 400lb>>>150 full stop which I thought was ridiculous. Now your taking Big Shows combat experience and conditioning I can kinda understand where your coming from. I still believe though that the 2 sports are too completely different, had Show been a kickboxer of some sort or even a former amateur boxer then yea, definetly Show. However as far as I know, all hes ever known is to grab and if he is not allowed to grab, well all hes ever learnt is m00t.

    But I think we can agree to disagree on this matter :good
     
  12. Drexl

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    Big Show most definitely. I know you will say Hatton, but you are wrong. What Hatton does better is time & place his punches making them more effective when they land cleanly on an opponents chin.

    Whose punch would have more effect if it landed on Floyd's guard/shoulder?


    Absolutely. It's just physics.
     
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    Assuming PBF would be the same fighter at HW is just stupid.
     
  14. MON

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    You think he can drop him, yes?


    Does this guy beat Mayweather?

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    He's 400 pound, has the same training as the Big Show.

    He beats Mayweather?
     
  15. dangerousity

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    I remeber reading about a test they did in Holland way back. They got a LW boxer(I think he was champ of some sort) vs a 240lb bodybuilder to hit a machine. The LW basically showed up the bodybuilder. Also in fairs with those punching machines, my brother who was 15 at the time weighing about 120lb was hitting it alot harder than many 200+lb full grown men...cant say how accurate those are though. Also having sparred with my bro and HW's, I can comfortably say he carries more bang. The difference tho is HW's have alot more thudding power, weight behind the punch whereby they hit you and your out of position cos the weight pushes you.