No, I stated my case and didn't see the need to re-state it just because nobody here seems able to read and comprehend the first time round. I'd pick any average journeyman HW over Kimbo by the way... and have said so many, many times.
George Foreman vs Andre the Giant would be 220 vs 500 George could KO him because he could reach him and he has insane power PBF vs Big Show - PBF would have a hard time reaching him, he would land body shots ect but Big Show is used to pain and punishment from his stuntman work in wrestling. He could stalk down PBF and crush him.
I said he lost to the GG'r but held his own and never said he beat Mercer in a boxing match. I was using that as an example. If a guy came up to me now and said he just sparred Naseem Hamed and got the better of him, I would be impressed and think he probably has decent skills. Now Im not gonna think hes world class since Naz has been retired for years, fat and it was sparring but it is some indication that this guy must still have some decent skills, atleast that of an amateur boxer good enough to beat a former champ.
Careful.... you are using logic and referring to the specific case of PBF vs Big Show, rather than leaping blindly and generalizing in order to save the honour of boxing. Prepare to be flamed! ZOMGLOLZ!1!!!!1!
Drexl.... On a normal day, Roy Jones Jr is giving away 3 inches and 60 pounds to John Ruiz. So if Roy Jones can beat a professional world boxing heavyweight champion despite giving away 3 inches and 60 pounds.... Why can't Mosley beat a novice whilst giving away 5 inches and 70 pounds? Answer this properly, no **** takes...
Actually he was fighting ammateur MMA (five fights) prior to the kimbo fight and travelled a ways just challenge Kimbo so he was probably very prepared. Anyway the video shows that both guys are very tough IMHO and they may fight again http://mmajunkie.com/2008/01/16/gary-shaw-kimbo-slice-vs-sean-gannon-ii-possible-in-elitexc/
Because RJJ had enough power at HW, and landed enough clean shots early, to discourage Ruiz from attacking in his usual manner. Ruiz was scared to close the distance. On fight night (on "a normal day" is irrelevant): Ruiz - mid 220's RJJ - mid 190's BTW, Kimbo is not a novice at throwing and taking punches.
Its not about honour of boxing. In wrestling classes a skilled 150lb wreslter would take down a 300lb guy simply using leverage and skill. In grappling a small 150lb guy has submitted a 500lb guy, using skill. In BBall, a small 5'3 guy would outpoint a 7'0 guy. In weightlifting a small 150lb guy would outlift a 400lb guy. If you look at guiness weightlifting records, you will see that they can lift huge and I know alot of fat guys who could not lift the same as that. All this because the wrestler has wrestled all his life and the 300lb guy has never wrestled, the 500lb has never grappled, the 7'0 guy has never played BBall, the 400lb fat guy has never lifted weights. Just as Big Show has never boxed and hes facing the best boxer on the planet...
Drex...did you even bother to read my post which was based on nothing but logic and specifics? C'mon..yuur only logic is "He is bigger and heavier" ..WW have trouble catching PBF..BIg Show would not catch him.. if he could, he could "push him", as I am sure he would puch his punches, with that big frame, and heavy arms, and gloves to boot...they would seem like they weigh a ton after 1 round..it would be a mismatch after 2 rounds...Show would get exhausted chasing dwon Gayweather, then start getting tagged, on top of being exhausted = he would quit......
If Kimbo was serious about fighting Mosley, I think he's try and come in at about 190. So the weight difference would be about the same as Ruiz/RJJ. So why can RJJ beat a world champion with that difference, but Mosley can't beat Kimbo who has no boxing pedigree??
Beautiful Brutha......good post....logic is the enemy of the illlogical..love it. Now jsut quit saying Kimbo has boxing skills, and we are all set.
Because in order to be effective, Welters need to try and land cleanly on him. and have their headshots slipped or glanced off Floyd's shoulder. Big show would not. And he wouldn't need to chase either. Floyd wouldn't win by simply running, he'd have to attempt to engage at some stage. In order to have any effect at all he'd need to be pin-point accurate over and over. Big show wouldn't have to worry about accuracy or volume. Just occasionaly hit any part of Floyd and follow up when he's off-balance... which he would be from any contact, clean or not.