PBF vs Big Show in a REAL boxing match

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  1. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    Did you see Valuev's latest fight?

    Even he can't follow up when his opponent's off balance and he's a professional boxer who's a lot lighter and fighting a fellow big guy...

    So how could Big Show close space effectively against Floyd if he did actually get him off balance, the answer is he couldn't...

    Floyd doesn't have to engage, he just needs to land a pitter patter punch and get out again....he'd win the fight like that. Big Show doesn't have the conditioning to do 12 rounds.
     
  2. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    True...but the intagible is that both athletes are of equal talent.....the mental then becomes the desire to win, drive to train, and abilty to alter tactics...thats the 90% of 100%.......9/10ths of boxing, which is a genral, unproven cliche, is mental, the other 1/10th is physical....taking for granted that the physical gifts are equal, fighters are in shape, prepared, etc.
     
  3. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Precisely.

    So his punches needed to be relatively precise in order to move his 250+lb opponent, and even then move him only slighly off balance.
     
  4. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    DRex..you know better...every fighter needs to land cleaner to be effective..not jsut on Gayeather.....every fighter..I have a hard time imaging BigShow has "pop" in his punches...look, all anyone has to do is land a good hard shot on another..but now you are asking a slow plodding non cardio conditioned wrerstler to land on a top condition fighter..who is lighting fast with twitch reflexes....I beleive you know this Drex...anint gonna happen.....FMj would see them coming from a mile away....BigShow would get tired, gassed, and then its over...he may "push" mayweather with his "weight"..but the punch would not be snappy and effective...not the speed of a knockout punch, not the thud of a foreman bomb..who, by contrast, would apprear "speedy", not the combos of a tyson or accuracy or a Lewis....jsut a sloppy punch..slow....leaving himself exposed to a top level boxer...nights over after time..I am not saying FMJ should go toe to toe...of course, when does he ever (lol)..I am saying fighting a smart fight, using his skills to offset and nullify the size advantage would result in a resounding victory....
     
  5. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    :good
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    In a four round fight, Mayweather wins. Make it 12, and the big man will catch him eventually.
     
  7. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    No.

    I'm saying Big Show couldn't close space on Floyd to hurt him.

    Valuev can't close space against fellow heavyweights....so what chance does a non boxer against a WW have of closing space effectively??
     
  8. carll68

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    Drex..dont spin that for your liking...because, the physical gifts are not equal in this scenario....FMJ has the gifts, Big Show does not...so this supports my opinion.
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But isnt that what your doing? Generalizing, going by the fact that in general big beats small. However I just simply turned around the generalistion towards you, in general skill beats none skilled and more often than not if the skill difference is that big, size difference is negated. On one corner we have the p4p best boxer, on the other we have a wrestler whos not allowed to wrestle. The skill difference cannot be any greater, and if my general examples have shown anything, its that an elite player of his own game will beat someone who has never attempted his game, despite the size difference. Wether it be wrestling, bball, grappling, weightlifting or boxing etc.
     
  10. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    He will never last 12 rounds my man...I think even Drex will admit that
     
  11. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    I'd say it's the other way round.

    Big Show has a chance over 4 rounds, but over 12 he'd collapse with exhaustion and get tagged.
     
  12. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    NO!!!! READ MY MOTHER****ING POSTS!!!

    In general, size does NOT beat skill.
     
  13. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    Another good counter brutha...very true.....honestly...staminia would play a huge part.
     
  14. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How does Bigshow make it to 12th without gassing? Also FMJ posses enough pop to break his nose, sting his eyes and cutup his face. A punch to the solar plexus and FMJ would land seeing as Big Show would simply be target practice below the head.

    Picture this scenario, Big show throws a massive looping right, FMJ slips it and times a perfect counter right hand. Big Show just threw himself straight into a right hand, with all his weight behind it.
     
  15. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    So Valuev never closes the space? Ever?