PBF VS JMM @ 130 lbs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tays001, Nov 6, 2008.


  1. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    im with you that this fight will not be a walk in the park for pbf. its a good match-up, two of the best tactician of the sport. but still, im leaning towards pbf, just base on style, but itll be a boxing match for sure.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    floyd. but if this fight did happened, marquez would be the toughest opponent floyd has faced at 130 and this would not be an easy fight for him.
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exellent!:good

    You see Silvermags my friend.......this is all I want to hear.....JMM respected like the true elite that he is!!!:deal

    JMM is just too skilled, and as witnessed in both his fights with Pac who is supremely strong and powerful, JMM is also too skilled/strong, to get overmatched by any fighter in history at 130 lbs, not just PBF!

    Absolutely no way JMM is overmatched by anyone in history at 130 lbs!!!
     
  4. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    what's up doc? ;)
     
  5. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    hehehe...im trying to be a good one. i already knew your reasons, bro :D . tambay ka muna :good
     
  6. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let me clarify things...

    The respect is there but truly my friend I'm not impressed as a whole. Sure he can tag or good counter puncher but like I said I'm not imrpessed...

    The things what we are talking here is higly theorical in the sense that in never really happened...

    Like I said, I respect you as a good writer. You are actually a good writer that you can make a champion out of nobody..isn't that great!
    Hey! I'm not trying to get into a fight here by saying JMM is a nobody.
    Just to clarify it.

    Bottom line, with writers like you, you can make a Novel out of JMM's style, counter puncher skills etc....

    Bottom line, what are the ACTUAL ACHIEVEMENTS that has brough about by the said Novel?! Very interesting reply indeed.

    You tried to bash me the other time by not immeidately replying. I've raised the issue of THE ACTUAL HONEST to GOODNESS achievement of JMM. I never got any DECENT reply from any of the league of JMM fans:bart . I'm still waiting......
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You keep going on and on about comparing achievments and resume.......

    JMM cant do anything more than deal with whats put in front of him as far as opponents are concerned.

    We've already discussed to nauseum JMM's prime years being wasted......I'm not about to waste my time on the same old topic.

    Bottom line is that he's dealt with every opponent put in front of him, and has an exellent case to say he could very well be undefeated.
    Whether you believe that or not, does'nt really matter, but a case can be made he's never really been beaten.
    All a fighter can do is deal with whats put in front of him.......

    We'll see where his legacy stands when its all said and done, and he's called it a career.

    For now, lets just call and hope that great matchups are made with whats left of his career.
    As a fan, I'm looking foward to the latter stage of it!:good
     
  8. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too bad! He's like a guy who earned PHD but could only speak of working in a local hamburger chain...many years of wasted talent indeed. I don't mean to put dowp people who worked in a local hamburger store but what he supposedly " know" due to being PHD has was not fully utilized.


    Resume does not equel to the theory of what he is really made of!

    ACTUAL ACHIEVEMENT/Honest to GOODNESS success is too pathetic to even discuss . I do understand!

    Anyway since there is really no heart stopping achievement to discuss everything boils down to the THEORY that he is such a great boxer.
    If there is absense of proof then it boils down to IMPRESSION!

    Good boxer! Yes. Great boxer. It remains to be seen.

    At the end of the day, you could put the blame on whoever is in charge of fixing his fights. Maybe, just maybe if his manager fixed more
    interesting fight with JMM he could have had a better career achievement wise. Who know even probably better than the other two boxers mab and morales...


    I don't want to sound philosophical in words or explanation but that's how I look at it.

    He may be one of the greatest mexican boxer if you want to say so but defenitely his actual test/achievement does not warrant of what those words suppose to mean.

    You are right, might as well enjoy the remaining years of JMM
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well my friend, JMM just is'nt the kind of person to pay someone to "fix" his fights......
    .....I dont have a clue if Pac pays someone to do that or not, but his promoter certainly has a history of such things as he's actually been convicted in court of bribery!:deal
     
  10. hooligan

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    nice post :good


    anyways pbf destroys both jmm and pac @ 130...floyd is just too good @ 130...
     
  11. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What I meant was...The phase " who fixes the fight" means who schedules... It's similar tosaying (mother talking to his son going to school.. better fix your schedule with your dad so could bring you to school on friday.

    Now if you talk about bribery. Yes, I do believe it could happen like in any other sports correct?!

    But there is one thing I'll to BELIEVE.

    All JMM's loss is blamed on the judges.

    Granting he lost due to judges or due to his poor actual poor performance does not matter.. LEGACY or ACCOMPLISHMENT wise speaking...

    1)Does his win over NORWOOD nor Chris John mean a thing as FAR as HONEST to GOODNESS REAL accomplishment is concerned?

    2)Does a win over NORWOOD nor chris john gives him a better resume than MORALES or MAB?!

    3)Every loss means it's the JUDGES fault correct?! Though I do not watch all JMM's fight HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED one the other side of the coin if some of JMMs W's the opponent is likewise thinking.. it's the judges fault?!

    What I'm saying is, too bad the so called best or talent is wasted coz the one who crafted his career path made a lousy choice of opponents which did not result or probably maximized his over all skills..Like I said earlier the one who fixes his schedule...

    So lets just sit back and relax and enjoy what ever is left of JMM and........... PAC (if it concerns you!);)
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm seeing why you dont make much sense when you post on most subjects related to JMM......

    :nut For a person who admittedly has'nt watched a whole lot of JMM, you sure do like to criticize him!
     
  13. imp4pdabest

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    Sure does. He's never really been defeated. He's been robbed a few times though
     
  14. Jose Rizal

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    JMM would be easy pickins for Floyd at any point in their careers.
     
  15. imp4pdabest

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    "I make A level fighters look like C level fighters"