Peak Roy Jones vs. Peak Joe Calzaghe

Agree with Loudon and BEATDOWNZ. There's nothing Calzaghe could have possibly done to have beaten the peak Roy Jones. The fight could have become hard to watch as Joe got hit cleanly time after time on his way to a comprehensive hammering.

 

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RJJ wide decision or brutal stoppage. Calzaghe said as much when they were both prime 'no one can beat him'.

 

Roy's peak was at SMW.

Joe was knocked down a few times, and it seems obvious to me that Roy would have found him easy to hit.

Joe could take a better shot, but Roy getting knocked out in his mid 30's, shouldn't be relevant to this topic. We're looking hypothetically, at a 25 year old version of Roy.

Roy had a better defence, and a much better offense.

Can't see how it could have been 50/50.

Can't see how Joe would have won in Europe.

Roy was faster, more skilled, and had more power.

There could only have been outcome in my opinion.

 

Roy has plenty of ways to land. Calzaghe has few, though his tenacious mentality and ring generalship may see him finding some success for a sustained period.

In the end a match is comprised of twelve rounds, and I see Calzaghe struggling to land in more than half of them.

9-6, Roy Jones. Calzaghe might make him uncomfortable, but beating him is a different thing altogether.

 

I don't believe this for a second.


You need to see more Jones fights. There was a time in the 5th round against Toney when Jones was caught with a very hard left hook from Toney that I believe hurt Jones, and Jones went into a complete frenzy and went after Toney with a complete onslaught of lightning fast power shots...


Prime Roy was just never pushed to get into a shootout... And if he had been, I have complete confidence he could out punch Calzaghe. Roy was faster and had more firepower.

I don't see Calzaghe beating prime Jones in that kind of fight. But I do believe Calzaghe may have been one of the fighters to drag Jones into that fight... I just don't see it ending good for Joe, good chin or not.

Joe was very smart too, I don't think we should assume he just tries to beat Jones in a brawling match.

 

To be honest, I think anytime Toney connected with anything Jones came right back him, overwhelming him at times. Nothing fazed Jones.

His prime probably starts around the Tate fight (love that fight), his last at 160. He was at his best at 168, an absolute monster.

So many of his fights ended up looking the same. Everyone had a plan, but when you got in that ring and realized just how fast and powerful Jones was.

 

joe fougth his 2 atgs when they were 40something /pushing 40something.

roy fought his atgs and hofs when they were prime.

theres a good reason for the difference, theres a ereason why joes are all the faded oldies, whislt other people faced them prime . joe's middling set of skills has no chance against a genuine atg, and he knew it.

 

Here is the reason Jones could never get in shoot outs, because he's always known he's got a **** chin. This was him in his prime, not 36 like Calzaghe was when he was KD'd.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp7h37fMneg[/url]

Another southpaw just like Tarver who KHTFO.

No matter his fan boys opinions.

 

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Lou Del Valle was a decent fighter, and a former sparring partner of Roy's. He landed a good shot.

Nobody here is putting up an argument that Roy had a great chin.

But again, Roy never found himself in shoot outs, because for the majority of his fights, he was always in control.

If I wanted to, (and I certainly don't) I could go on YouTube and view fights of Joe's, where he easily gets tagged, especially with right hands, from fighters who were nowhere near the level of Roy.

Roy also turned southpaw in more than a few of his fights and had success.

To my knowledge, Joe never fought a world class southpaw.

Joe was truly a great fighter.

But IMHO, he just wasn't good enough to have beaten a 25 year old version of Roy.

He didn't have the defence.

 

calzaghes best asset in this fight is patience which might get him a win.

patience in waiting in wales till jones is pushing 40, that is, and is getting reg. ktfo.

 

Jones by KO or wide decision. People talk up Calzaghe's chin as if he took a lot of huge shots from power punchers - when did that happen? I don't see how Calzaghe is going to win many rounds - I think he needs a KO to win. If Calzaghe goes right at Jones and tries to overwhelm him with volume, I think he (Calzaghe) gets stopped or dropped multiple times. He isn't going to outbox Jones either.

 

This is pretty much my take on it as well. A prime Jones was an extremely elite fighter.

 

How do you explain Griffin 2 then? Shouldn't Roy have been trying to protect his glass jaw instead of walking through him?