Perspective on Wlad, and the HW division

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What?

    :lol:
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How can my point be invalid?

    Ok, he was a great HW from 2006.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You can't see what you did? lol. Saying you're not trying to pull him down and then saying you think he's merely very good to great is beyond ridiculous. Even if you don't like Wlad, there's absolutely no doubting he's a great fighter.
     
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  4. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Comparing heavies and super heavies two different breeds. Wlad a 6'6" 250 lbs with a minimum fat in his body and a steel hammer in both hands and a typical 220 heavy is not a contest. They should create a super division of 240 and up to accommodate the large men.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What?

    It was a slash. /

    Very good/great.

    What's wrong with that?

    Ha!


    He's the greatest in this era.

    I do like Wlad.

    But I do think he's overrated by a good few people, and I don't think his era and his competition is that strong.

    But that's not his fault.

    I enjoyed it tonight, believe it or not.

    But I watched Pulev, and just wished we were still in the 90's instead.
     
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  6. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

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    So who are these amazing fighters he should be fighting?


    Funny, Tyson and Holmes feasted on bums and they are under rated in your opinion...LMAO.

    Wlad is the best HW in the last decade he has fought everyone and won, he is the king and he is very, very under rated son.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    There isn't any amazing fighters he should be fighting.

    That's my point.
     
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  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  9. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good

    But it's always like this when you have super dominating champion.

    And you can't be a HW champion over 8yrs if you are only good or borderline great.

    i think it tells more about Wlad skills that number 1contenders are labelled as bums.

    Wlad should have made it close with Povetkin,Pulev etc.. They would be viewed in better light,and Wlad could make rematches.and seal his legacy.

    It would hype him more,too bad he just molest everybody and don't give any chances.
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    More eras in heavyweight history were weak than were not.
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Before my time.

    :lol:
     
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  12. AnotherFan

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    I think they would have done just fine, until they run into a Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis, just like they runt into Wladimir Klitschko in the real world.

    I can see a case for Lennox Lewis era beeing better. It had Evander Holyfield, and some real tough guys like David Tua and a young Shannon Briggs around.

    I can't see a case for Tysons opposition beeing better. Just a bunch average and solid opponents, like those Wlad faced and defeated.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've never said that Wlad wasn't very good/great.

    I've never called his opponents bums.

    I've just said that IMHO, this current era isn't that strong.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Er. There was no need for the ''very good'', Loudon. There isn't any ambiguity regarding whether he's merely very good or great - Wlad is a great fighter, period. lol. The fact that you even wrote that was very revealing about how much you underrate him. If you genuinely believe that there is ambiguity regarding that, well I'm afraid I can't help you.


    Nah, not buying that. You had your claws sharpened and ready to pounce before the referee had time to wave it off. Wlad can't please you people no matter what he does - he gets trashed if he's too tentative and doesn't try to get his opponents out early, and trashed if he does the complete opposite. It's truly bizarre. I'm not even a big fan of his or anything either, Loudon (way too much holding these days for my liking).

    No long reply please. I'm not going to get into a debate about this with anyone. Like I said, love him or loathe him, Wlad's a great fighter, period. :good
     
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