Nobody has outboxed Pac for all the way,certainly Jones wouldn't do it when Pac was in his absolute physical peak at 122 and I question his skills in front of Pac.He would get stopped. Chi can't box and neither can Valero,who is looking for big fights not guys like Pacquiao. Seriously Valero hasn't done anything to get a shot at Pac nor I think he will do anything while Pac is around. I got into boxing more than 10 years ago.