Okay. I can forfeit Williams being a better puncher let’s go with that fair enough it’s very probable. I think Golota was a respectable puncher and a bigger more proven (IMO) fighter. I have to ask did Liston ever absorb as much punishment as Bowe did in the Golota fights? Let’s try not to get lost on the point at hand Liston only took very few shots from Clev and was a much, much, much better boxer.