POLL: Was Kovalev vs. Ward a robbery?

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Was it a robbery?

  1. Yes, Kovalev should have won

    344 vote(s)
    74.8%
  2. No, I thought Ward won

    116 vote(s)
    25.2%
  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I agree and I've been saying from day 1 that this fight serves as a litmus test to me over who can score a fight according to the correct criteria. Whether you have it for Kovalev or Ward by a margin, you're correct - but for sure, this was not a robbery.

    It also emphasised to me that Ward is actually P4P better than Kovalev. Ward's prime weight class is 168 and he hasn't looked the exact same as he has at 175 in terms of his physical traits.

    Ward was jittery at the start, fighting a top fighter for the first time in years, the knockdown woke him up and he took over the fight. Ward has left the ring the more impressive fighter to me.

    I can't wait until Ward 8-4's Kovalev, quite frankly.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a robbery, but definitely a gift.

    Kovalev won six clear rounds. Ward won three clear.

    The other three were swing rounds, two of which I scored for Kovalev and one for Ward, giving a 116 -111 score in favour of Kovalev.

    Even if you give all there close rounds to Ward, you get six rounds apiece, and the Knockdown is the difference, 114-113.

    I can't see a way to score this as a win for Andre.
     
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  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12.
     
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No way was there 6 clear rounds for Kovalev.
     
  5. Charles van Doren

    Charles van Doren Member Full Member

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    Kovalev won!! Ward should be ashamed to have those belts
     
  6. Down Goes Ward

    Down Goes Ward New Member banned Full Member

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    everyone knows it was a robbery
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    If that's how you scored it, we had it exactly the same, round for round. But writing this post feels like deja vu, so I'm thinking we had already perhaps established this previously.

    :smoking:
     
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  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    We had, but scoring solidarity is always welcome. Especially with a myth as tiring as this one, that Ward couldn't have feasibly won the fight legitimately.
     
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  10. alangjk

    alangjk Active Member Full Member

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    I thought Kovalev won but don't consider it a robbery.
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I see where you went wrong, Bogo.

    3, 5 and 12 were all Kovalev rounds.

    Apart from that, you were pretty much on track.







    Kov: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12,

    Ward: 7, 8, 9, 11
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look, Andre knows he lost that fight, as clearly and as incisively as he knew Pac won Bradley 1.

    He should have taken the advice he gave Timmy at that time and put it into practice himself.
     
  13. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    kovalev was the champion and he got 1 kd while mostly the aggressor and inflicted the more damaging blows. ward did not do enough to capture the belt being the challenger. how could have ward won the fight? ward knows deep in his heart that it was a gift. he should prove himself worthy for the gift belt in the rematch otherwise he should throw the belt in the trash.
     
  14. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I don't remember the others off the top of my head, but I can't see round 3 for Kovalev. Ward's head-snapping jabs were far superior to anything Kovalev landed that round.
     
  15. Chutz

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    I suppose technically, if you had Kovalev winning then it is a robbery. In your eyes one man was robbed of victory