Povetkin refusing VADA testing...could be trouble

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  1. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Deontay doesn't fight for TMT does he?
     
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    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm referring to Haymon, but yea same difference.
     
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    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    No it's not, don't cloud the subject by bringing Floyd into the discussion, Wilder has absolutely nothing to do with Mayweather. Nor does any other fighter not directly associated with TMT that is being advised by Haymon.
     
  4. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    Well power is part of boxing ability right? To be able to throw and land powerful punches surely is part of ability....Povetkin's recent KO surge is only proof of that...Marquez, Guillermo Jones etc etc are other examples.

    Stamina and endurance is a massive part of Boxing, something steroids improves and retains. This all affects overall ability positively. In addition, roids can aid muscle fatigue and enable more intense training and more regular training which obviously improves ability too.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do enough of it and one can become superman overnight.


    http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/features/floyd-landis-the-almost-tour-legend/
     
  6. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    I doubt Povetkin's recent shape is only eating healthier

    anyone refusing VADA is pretty much admitting to being a cheater, since they're the most competent drug testing agency
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Wilder is not a doper, then why was there no randomized testing in his last 4 bouts? What is he hiding?
     
  8. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    But even if Ryabinsky chooses VADA people will still complain.
    VADA was used for Chagaev-Browne.
     
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    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The irony. Pac fans have been saying that about Roidquez forever now.

    Btw, did you guys know that the agency can order the tests to suit how deep they want to go? Testing to order, ie, the lab can raise or lower the strength of the test. USADA actually uses the lowest degree of testing in regards to the CIR test.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Chechnya and Russia in reality are two different places.
     
  11. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    I'm not even a Pac fan :lol:

    All the top dogs are on something regardless of who you're a fan of
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    I was suspicious about him since his last fight. The guy is probably on something it's a red flag. Wilder shouldn't fight him if he won't cooperate.
     
  13. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    Cat and mouse, the dopers and producers are always ahead of the testing agencies
     
  14. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povektins team did the same thing in the Klitschko fight too. Povektin eventually accepted the German doping Agency Wlad uses and came up clean. It's easy to say that Russia is the mostlikely to cheat because of their history but after scandals have emerged and the media has focused heavily on them in the recent past then you could easily say that they're the least likely to cheat when the eyes of the world are on them. This could all come down to the bid winner wanting to keep as much of the spent money in the Russian economy as possible.

    PEDs or not though, my bets on Wilder to win.
     
  15. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny how Wilder fanboys are already looking for excuses.

    Let me tell you this: Povetkin will eat Wilder alive. Deontay is getting knocked out early on and y'all know it :deal:deal:deal