I say Joe, but not by the large margins most on here are saying.. I asked Alex Stewart a question a few years ago, Alex had faced Foreman, Tyson and Holyfield, I asked him who was the hardest hitter and Alex answered immediately , no contest Holyfield, he said he hits you and the punches were sharp , crisp and solid , where Tyson and Foreman hit you in a clubbing manner most of the time.. He said it was a shocking revelation to find out when you are exchanging blows but he has felt nothing close to Holys power.. I found that intriguing.. considering he was from a lighter division by nature.. In fact he said Ezzera Sellers was up there also....
Chaney, # 1 & 3 were great wars / classics............ # 2 was a tactical match in which Ali won pretty handily and by a wide margin...... I gave Ali the nod in # 2 by 8 to 4 in rds over Frazier.... Joe Frazier had lotsa' problems getting in and really hurting Ali to the body in # 2..... Ali clearly controlled that fight....... MR.BILL
There was no way Frazier was going to win the second fight. Boxing would not allowed the so called "greatest" to lose to to Frazier. Red Smith and Dave Anderson both had Frazier winning. Ali had a tremendous amount of help from referee Tony Perez in the second fight. Ali was allowed to hold excessively and push down on Frazier's head repeatedly without warning which is an illegal tactic. Futch counted this 133 times during the fight. Did you notice that in the early rounds of Manilla, he tried to hold and push down of Frazier but referee Carlos Padilla would have none of it, slapping his gloves away from Frazier's neck? Who knows what would have happened if Ali was able to follow-up after stunning Joe in the second round with his right hand. Maybe he puts Joe on the canvas? I doubt he knocks Frazier out though. Also, Ali's punches were practically pittypat/shoeshine except for the right hand shot in the second round. The second fight was a marginal, controversial win for Ali, not a significant landslide like some people say.