For what should we give Haye credit? He pulls out of the fight against Wlad and now beeing the slave from King and Sauerland? Than he fights Valuev in very safty way. Now old Ruiz and than Valuev again and the winner of Chagaev vs. Meehan.
Well in my book Haye still deserves some credit for that. I think these are all winnable fights and financially - if he plays it smart and he stays frugal - he can set himself up for life. He has a big mouth but maybe after all he doesn't care about the Klits at all and just wanted to make enough money to retire early. I read he lives in Northern Cyprus with his wife and baby son, enjoying 300 days of sunshine a year. It's cost of living is much lower than London while the air quality and fresh organic food are much healthier. In an interview Haye was saying they enjoy the healthy lifestyle away from all the pollution and crime. Who can blame him? How many here on the board can retire at age 31? It's a dream for many. Once you see through Haye's "I am boxing for legacy, I do this for the history books" as a smoke screen then it all makes sense. My hat is off to him for playing millions of fans as suckers, most of them are convinced he is boxing for the Hall of Fame.
Yeah i bet you wouldn't read it because you have no point to make. So mac being a paper champ of one of many belts made him a world class fighter :nut Tell me again who are these great cruisers mac defeated to make him a world class fighter or even slightly above average? Before you speak out of your ass about when he was or was not mentioned you should go back and look because 99% of the time i only respond when someone brings Haye into it but hey i cant expect you to actually research instead of talking out your ass. And again what are Hayes accomplishments that make him a heavyweight destroyer exactly? People bring up the contract are haye fans trying to make an excuse for their man ducking both fighters he supposedly wanted more then anything else to fight, Don't worry ill fish up the posts when we were first discussing Haye it'll take when i have some time because like i said it was over a year ago and my search only goes back 500 posts, but there there :deal You say you just recently became a Haye fan? Three years ago is recently damn atsch man i guess that would be your defintion if you broke up with your girlfriend would be recently? Really :yep recently implies just that recently? how the hell is three years ago recently :dead
wlad KOs another nobody.... he hasn't fought a good opponent since the first brewster fight (and we all know what happened then)
I'd give Chambers a high probability of beating any heavyweight not named Klitschko. The reality of it is, Chambers is a very good fighter, and probably the best Wlad has faced in several years. Of course the haters will never acknowledge this. :-(
What the **** point are you trying to make? You are simply twisting my words and insinuating things I have supposedly said. :roll: You dumb. Mac was a recognised champion and one of the best around at the weight. Regardless of whether you think he was any good is completely irrelevant. :blood He went to Mormeck's back yard and got off the floor to knock Mormeck out. Yeah, I know, he was just shot and Haye gets no credit at all. Way to be objective, dumbass. I can do as you are and pick holes in anyones career by labelling their wins as shot and their opponent was never good anyway. I have already proven that you have brought Haye up when he wasn't mentioned. You must be pretty ****ing stupid if you are unable to comprehend plain English. One poster mentions VITLAY's KO % and I say it's not the best indicator of his power - you have to look at the level of his competition. YOU claimed I was somehow applauding Haye??? Get a ****ing grip you tool. Also, your boyfriend Chef claims Haye is a runner when he ignores the rest of his career. I see you don't pick up on his bull**** though. Okay ****nuts this is my point. Find ONE post, just ONE whare I claim Haye is a "heavyweight destroyer. Go on. :deal You would spend all that time searching through your post history. Get a life - fast. atsch Heart stoppingly funny. I took notice of him when he beat Bonin, was gutted when he beat Mac, and enjoyed the build up to WALDO. Let me put this so even a ****ing simpleton like you MAY just understand......what is the point in discussing a fighter you thoroughly dislike and have no intention of changing your view on? Or even contemplating that maybe, just maybe, you are being just a touch one sided against the man who, from behind, smashed your mother? Just answer that simple question. If you can't give credit to a man who is a unified and two weight world champion in only 20 plus fights, then you and your cheerleaders in this thread fail. :deal I have already stated in NUMEROUS posts that things haven't gone to plan for Haye and I concede he may well have his ass handed to him at heavyweight. That is me being unbiased - now show me ONE post of yours that does the same...... Quit claiming I am making Haye out to be some God simply because I post something positive about him. You have spent and awful lot of time and effort crying and bitching about someone who apparently is **** all - sorry dummy but that just doesn't quite add up. I've spent way too much time attempting to debate with someone who really has the mental capacity of a shitty piece of toilet paper. Just carry on claiming that Ilesey thinks Haye is the best heavyweight ever and let your bumboys sooth your ego " go get em kriszhao!". I'll be honest, I am done on arguing petty **** with a ****ing moron. As the old saying goes, you should never expect anything than **** from an *******. :hi:
I will go with you on this one. Chagaev's last good performance was against Valuev in april of 07. After that he looked like ****, the disease/injuries took it's toll on Chagaev's body. His two fights leading up to his showdown with Wlad showed that the writting was on the wall. Both Drummond and Skelton made him look like an average fighter. Chagaev was a pretty easy oppenent for Wlad. Brock and Thompson put up better fights against him.
Well, I just hope Eddie escapes with only minimal injury. If his corner sees that he is getting killed without returning, or being able to return fire, they should pull the plug and save him for the Klitschko AR era (after retirement).