Press Coneference : Bellew V McKenzie II

Nah man, scratch that, Bellew's pressers are entertaining.

 

Well, that's your view, and it will be shared by many others. Myself, I don't like the crap that comes with boxing now... stupid build ups and all that... even more so when the fights fail to live up to the hype (no reflection on Tony's fight's).

I love boxing as in the sport... what goes on in the gym, what goes on from the first bell to the last... I have zero interest in anything else that goes with it... especially the panto crap that goes on - you may like it, but it gives boxing a bad name, and boxing already gets enough grief from the do gooders in the world... no point giving them more to pick on...

If I want to see insults and bs, I can go and watch the pissed up village idiots on a Friday night insulting everything and everyone - it ain't funny or clever there, so why should it be when a fighter says it on tv? These fighters are professionals and they should aim to act as such - not salesmen trying to sell a product.

Tony lost his cool with Clev... okay, it happens to the best of us, but I would be gutted if one of our best prospects goes down the path of being known for talking rather than fighting.

 

I tend think Boxing is a dirty game anyway, and that there are lot of fighters, past and present, who give the sport a dirty name, and its something that cant be policed, and why should it? fighters are fighters because of where they come from, they're a product of their environment, now if that pours over, then so be it.

This idea all fighters should be all noble, is utopia imo. Its like saying football players shouldn't act this way or that way, they generally come from working class families, and they are guys in their early to late 20's, who are millionaires, what do people expect? if they acted that way and they came from a silverspoon background, and where in their mid 30's, it would be understandable to hold them accountable to a higher standard, not that they should be absolved of any responsibility, but you have to be realistic in your expectations imo. How many of us, at that age, would act responsibility in that situation? you may say you were responsible, but I'm sure you'll concede that most aren't? well that aint a coincidence imo.


Did you get more hyped up for De Gale-Groves because of that bad blood? Do you think other non Boxing fans got drawn into that? then I dont see how its bad for the sport, if anything, its good for the sport, look at Mayweather, not everyone likes him, but almost everyone has heard his name, even non Boxing fans.

 

Like it or not, its proven time and time again the big build up, the theatre and dramatics, builds fights like nothing else can. You can be as matey as you want, you can do all the adverts in the world, nothing sells a fight like a war of words.

Personally I enjoy it. I would always tune into a Bellew conference. Others? Most of the time when I know the characters are fairly passive I won't even be arsed.

 

I agree, catching the public's imagination is what brings the A list celebs out when there's a big fight in Vegas.

 

il tune into a bellew vs clev conference and i will have sme money on bellew to ko clev (easy fight for bellew imo) IF he can get past ovil...

 

Forget the main event..... This is the fight I'm looking forward to most.

Bellew please knock out this swine!

 

Well good luck in your fight mate, im sure youll stop the guy again. whenever a fighter gets scared nowadays he shouts PEDS!

Still will you be staying at light heavy after this? if you cant get a fight with clev would you entertain a fight with Shumenov?

 

All this background, silver spoon crap is bollocks. Look back to Barrera... good upbringing, yet look at some of his press conferences, and the war of words he had with Morales. Take Cotto, normal background, no **** comes out of his mouth in the press, but he sells out every fight he's in - why? because he puts on a great fight, which is boxing is all about. At the end of the day, people do come from different backgrounds whether they are sports men or not, but my whole point is how you present yourself to such a big audience is how you will be remembered - if the fighter hasn't got the wherewithall to deal with all of the press conferences and such like, this is where the coach needs to step in and help out, unlike Jim McDonnell, whispering in Degale's ear, using him like a puppet. Look at Cus D'Amato and Tyson - after Cus died, Tyson was a different animal - had Cus heard Tyson say that he was going to "eat your children", Cus would have slapped him down so hard Mike wouldn't have known what hit him. When Tyson was with Cus, he was famous for his ability - after Cus, what was he famous for? It certainly wasn't his boxing, it was the circus that he had for a life, and here we had potentially the most gifted heavyweight boxer ever, as he's primarily remembered by non boxing fans as nothing more than an animal.


Who said anything about nobility? For info, I don't like fighters kissing each others arse either. It's a simple case of each fighter being confident in their own ability, focusing on themselves, and cutting out all of the bs.

Did I get more hyped up for Degale Groves? No, I didn't even watch the fight tbh, simply because the build up turned me off that much. As for other non boxing fans - if you walked down the street right now and asked a hundred people if they saw the fight, how many do you think would say yes? If you asked that same 100, if they knew George Groves, most would say no - that's because he keeps a low profile, but at the end of the day, he own's a win over the gobby one. If you asked the same 100 if they knew of Degale, more would say yes - out of those that said yes, they would either know him from the olympic success (which is a good thing), and the others would know him as the "the wanker who keeps shouting his mouth off", and because of that, he looks like a grade A ***** right now.

Mayweather - what, the one who won't fight Pacquiao, makes drug accusations, beats up women... great way to make a name for yourself that... Before the drama that comes with him (circa 130lb era), he was still one of the best, if not the best p4p, but not so many people knew him. Therefore, I would conclude that people know him more for his mouth than his ability, and that's a shame as he is technically the best fighter that boxing has seen for a long, long time. If that's the way he wants to make his name, make his money, build his reputation and legacy etc, so be it, but whilst he is sitting on his fortune in his retirement, he'll always be remembered as the one who ducked the one man that could genuinely challenge him... I know what i'd rather be remembered for...

 

Famous for cleaning up the heavyweight division after Cus died perhaps?

 

How clever... you have completely missed the point. No point me clarifying it for you any further if that's what i'm dealing with...

 

Tony 'A-side meth' Bellew.

 

Bodi you sound like you sand in your vagina to be honest. Pull yourself together, in boxing there are different characters just like there are in all walks of life. But what you have to remember is this is a mans sport, a pure fighting sport and it will always be fuelled by testosterone and bluster. I really don't know what kind of idealistic sport you envisage but its never happened yet and it never will. For every Cotto there will be a Mayweather. And why not? Thats the way people are, and when you're going to fight another man it exagerrates emotions in a lot of people.