Prime Arguello Would Beat Pryor

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny you should mention the Kevin Rooney fight with Davey Moore ( I never saw it). I was just thinking of this the other day...From what I remember reading, Rooney was giving a very good account of himself in the fight, but lost due to a cut....Off the top of my head, I think it was Moore's 6th fight...Anyway, very shortly he contested a Japanese fighter for the WBA title. (junior middle)
    I was wondering if possibly Arguello hit harder than Moore!!!:think
    I think it might have been the fact that Alexis was so unerringly accurate with his blows. More so than the power....:good
    At 140 AA did lose some handspeed and footwork, but still a great , great fighter.
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    God only made one Alexis Arguello. After that he broke the mold! A class act out of the ring, but a ferocious warrior in the ring. You ought to watch the end of the Mancinni fight in slo-mo if you get a chance. Seeing it at regular speed it's almost hard to understand the stoppage, but in slow motion it's rather like watching my 17 pound abasinian Tom Cat go after a mouse: you know this make take a minute, but that poor ****ing mouse ain't got a chance!!! Then after the fight Arguello praises Mancinni and tells him, in his broken english, "You good fighter. you come see me again, 2 years." Pure class.:bbb

    Boo
     
  3. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would have what? After 13 rounds Pryor was 3 points ahead on two scorecards (the 3rd judge was totally blind, as Pryor outboxed and outfought Arguello in most rounds of the fight). Take 13th round away, it'd still be 117-115 split decision in favor of Pryor.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who's to say that Arguello would'nt have done it in 82' without the black bottle?

    I will forever see that win by Pryor as tainted!......and * behind it!


    .....and please no clowns saying that Pryor proved himself without the black bottle in the rematch.....

    ......most fighters dont recover from that type of a beatdown in that 14th round, particulary a fighter with the mileage of Arguello and in a fight that was fought at an incredibly high pace!
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Just shut the **** up and stay off of Boxrec. You were 5 years old when that fight happend ******!

    Boo
     
  6. hdog

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    P4P and h2h, I think AA takes it. He did doesn't get hit as much, the punches don't hurt as much, doesn't get as tired, he hits Pryor more often and harder.

    Yes Pryor's movement gives him trouble but AA was still able to catch him. Arguello takes him about in about 10 rounds.
     
  7. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    I think Aaron still might take him, but it would be a much closer fight with Alexis more on point.
     
  8. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what was in the black bottle? Red Bull?
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Post prime Arguello would have beaten Pryor had it not 4 that bottle .
    4 d worn out asses who will fart : "did Arguello beat Pryor in the rematch ? " I can say that an already beaten and deteriorating Arguello was even more beaten and deteriorating as d time passed even more , and d beating he took due 2 d cheat .
    If Arguello beat Pryor in their 1st fight (which he was about 2 do) , chances r better that he would have done also better in d rematch , if Pryor would have been in a condition needed 2 another long beatdown after getting stopped once .
     
  10. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not a chance.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Prime v Prime would be at Lightweight, which Pryor makes fine, he moved up for his shot after all. I think the result stays the same, Pryor being too busy, too fast, too many angles, too relentless. I really don't think Arguello was vastly out of his prime and I don't think 140lbs was a bad weight for his 5'10 frame at all

    I never saw the first fight as close as many did, I think it was a break down where Pryor would outland Arguello round on round, black bottle of peaty malty whisky or no black bottle Pryor wins and I don't think a bottle won the first fight I think punches did
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well if rumours pan out probably Ephedrine, I take Ephedrine daily, the jury is out on if it helps performance, I think it helps, I'm not sure, if I took a significant dose too near to a cardio I'd probably vomit though and I don't know if it'd get into your system to have effect within a minute
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Well, Arguello was at his best at 130 lbs, if he stepped up to face the same pryor he faced at his own peak in his 130 days & he handled the weight fine at that time then yes, I`d pick Arguello to win because the 130 Arguello was a better fighter than the 140 Pryor.... BUT we don`t know that the weight would not be a factor, Alexis might always have lost that edge moving up those 2 divisions.

    It would ALWAYS be a close & cracking fight regardless tho.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    :huh

    Strange thing to say when Pryor`s peak weight was 140 & Arguello`s was 130, neither ever fought at 147.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I meant lightweight edited