Prime Golovkin Prime Canelo..(Not In Las Vegas) Poll edition

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Hanz Cholo, Feb 1, 2020.


sho Takes it & how?

  1. GGG in points

  2. GGG decapitation

  3. Canelo on points

  4. Canelo By KO

  5. Draw

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    In my almost 18 years in this forum, I've never seen anyone who projects more than you.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You sound triggered.

    Why don't you talk boxing?
     
  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was I talking to you ? Or like patti boy have forgotten who your supposed to be signed in as ///
    punk
     
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  4. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your a prime clown! trigger lol
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You blame everyone but yourselves dont you ?? Everyones opinions are wrong but yours. Now you claim the Mods are unfair & biased:duh:duh:duh
    Look in the mirror my friend & you might just see one of the main reasons for your problems
     
  6. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Pick em back and forth
     
  7. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I pick Canelo on points. Canelo of the second GGG fight out brawls any version of the man. I can actually pin point the moment Prime Canelo started. https://i.imgur.com/h4Qhzvy.mp4

    The moment Canelo learned he could take anybody's power was the moment Canelo's prime started. Canelo who knows he can take GGG's is going to try to out brawl GGG on the inside like he did in the second fight. He just stuck to his game plan of letting GGG come to him and didn't have the IQ to change on the fly in the first. Canelo who goes into the fight knowing he can eat GGG's power wins 6/10.

    Because it's a rational argument that got totally ignored.
     
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I acknowledge that Canelo was being a little too cautious and giving away rounds. But the shots he did land were better than the shots that Kovalev landed. So yes I had Kovalev up by a small margin, however several of those rounds were so low-output and close that they could be scored either way. So 6-4 Kovalev, 5-5, or 6-4 Canelo are all acceptable scores. Now if there was a judge who had that 8-2 or 9-1 Canelo then you'd have a point but there wasn't. Plenty have made the argument that there's always an outlier judge who scores it wide to Canelo. That didn't happen vs Kov. All 3 judges had similar scores, as a close fight.

    You seem to not understand that many of Canelo's matches involve close rounds that could be scored either way, which explain variations in scoring.

    You can think whatever you want but Cotto did was not winning rounds convincingly. He was just trying to keep up with Canelo and keep rounds close. Canelo had the quality work and won that match comfortably.
     
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A stronger argument could be made about Mayweather being a favored Vegas fighter, as he lives in Vegas and is American, unlike Canelo who lives in Mexico.

    However when Mayweather fought Canelo I didn't come out and cry about it and say that Mayweather only got the decision because he was a Vegas favorite. Now I thought those judges had the fight scored correctly. (didn't agree with the 6-6 CJ Ross Card, but I thought the other two judges had it right, a 9-3 / 8-4 Mayweather win)

    Yet you have people arguing that it was a shutout I don't get it. The same people arguing that Vegas plays favorites, who argue that that Vegas favoritism leads to their favorites getting favorable scores, are arguing that Mayweather Canelo was scored too close and didn't credit the Vegas favorite at the time (Mayweather) enough. Back in 2013 Canelo had not fought in Vegas much up to that point, it was very much a road match for him vs Mayweather the so-called Vegas favorite. But yet the judges scored it closer than most fans think it should have been, which goes against this idea that Vegas judging unfairly favors the hometown fighter.
     
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  10. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    both Mayweather & canelo are cash cows.
    Floyd the BIGGER cash cow.

    However if they fought tomorrow in Vegas
    & the fight were close Canelo would get the nod over the Las Vegas native Floyd 100% !!
    because canelo is the new cash cow with many more fights to give the boxing gods.

    This shouldn’t bother you or others it’s a fact of boxing & probably always will be.
     
  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    There is ZERO evidence to prove what you stated. It's actually borderline paranoia.
     
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  12. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only the evidence of history my friend.
    There is a saying for this ritual
    They call it “passing the torch.”
     
  13. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    No he didn't. The first fight was declared a draw even though GGG significantly outlanded Canelo and he was the champion.
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If they fought tomorrow in Vegas and the fight was close Canelo would probably get the nod because Floyd has long been retired and is no longer at the top of his game while Canelo is still in his physical prime. It would have nothing to do with who is the new cash cow, it has to do what how each fighter performs in the ring. Who lands the better punches, etc.
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Close rounds aren't supposed to be scored by who is the Champ. This round's close so lets forget about who landed the better punches and what happened in the round, lets just give all the close rounds to the champ because he is the champ = total BS.

    GGG outlanded him in terms of compubox but Canelo landed the harder more significant shots and showcased better defense, and slipped many of the punches GGG was given credit for.
     
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