prime Haggler would stalk and KO prime Roy Jones

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hagler was a natural middleweight and Jones was a natural 168 lber. For that reason I would take Hagler over Jones. Btw Jones didn't fight that great of opponents at 160 only Hopkins who got better as his career went along.
     
  2. foreman&dempsey

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    Bob Fitzsimmons: //youtu.be/tQRS4cQ0_JA

    Vs corbett very decent quality
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    Too big?

    He was a couple inches taller but had shorter reach.

    He never once looked as stocky as Hagler despite regularly weighing around the same weight.

    Would you say Hopkins was too big for Hagler? Because Hopkins is definitely bigger than Fitz.

    I don't mind people having a different opinion, I just don't think "too big" cuts it tbh.

    He looks nowhere near as skilled as Hagler. From what I've seen of Corbett I'd expect Hagler to beat him as well.
     
  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I keep reading about superstars like Fitz beating heavyweights but most were only 170-180lbs.
    With all due respect to the old timers they'd be out of their depths
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    Most of the comments on this thread makes my head hurt.

    Hagler being a stalking destroyer? Old timer Fitz knocking out Hagler?
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    The seek and destroy would surely be his only strategy for beating Jones? There's no chance he's outboxing him.

    I agree that he has zero chance of landing a ko shot on Hagler though.
     
  7. foreman&dempsey

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    No wrong fitzsimmons was skin and bone at 168 pounds. Hagler was a smalish muscular at 157. Ruby had much bigger frame. You make this basic and absurd ****isis of the size( reach and height) and you think that it will be that easy. Hopkins was bigger than hagler, he was drained at 160, but if you look the bones in the arms of fitz you realise that he has the frame of a bigger man.fitzs was thicker than hopkins in frame.Fitzsimmons was a lhw. Hagler was a small mw. SO NO. THEY WERE NOT THE SAME SIZE.
    Hagler never was stocky. He had ripped but thin legs and long reach, broad shoulders but he was more type holyfield in body, you are talking like if he was a tyson mw
     
  8. Brixton Bomber

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    People forget just how special Roy was in his prime.

    What great MW's did Marvin actually beat that were as good as Roy?

    His resume is littered with either past-it MW's or blow up WW's.

    As awesome as Marvin was, Roy had the ability to make him look foolish.

    Roy Jones, on his very best day, is a nightmare for ANY fighter in history from 160-175.

    Take the rose-tinted glasses off.
     
  9. foreman&dempsey

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    Sure
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    He wasn't skin and bones at 168 at all. No point just telling blatant lies.

    What I am saying is, if they were to fight a MW championship fight, Hagler would destroy him within 3 rounds. It's that simple.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Every great MW made his name off WW fighters didn't they?
     
  12. foreman&dempsey

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    Ir is truth... He was pure frame at 168, skin,bone and small fibre,he was a bigger man who could carry more weight than hagler. What im telling you is that fitzs stops him , he was naturally bigger and his bigger bones are a big dangerous weapon against a smaller man, plus he is oNE of the hardest punchers of all time against lhws and hws, he would not have problems stopping a smalish mw, even if his name was hagler or pepe. There are weight classes cause obvious motives dear
     
  13. Brixton Bomber

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    Roy never. :good
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Yes and in the MW division he would look no bigger than Hagler and certainly no better than Hagler.

    This size advantage is made up. And if the size advantage is that bad you surely feel he's drained at MW therefore would be weakened against Hagler right?

    Unless you are saying you want them to fight at LHW, it Hagler is not allowed to bulk up?
     
  15. foreman&dempsey

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    A bigger man is a bigger man. Being packed of muscles does not make you bigger.your frame is the same. Even if the bigger man cut weight of mass. Having bigger bones it gives you advantage in power and strength over a naturally smaller guy.