prime jack jonshon vs prime john l. sullivan

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Read Zyber Zone's account you say? :lol: I think you meant to say Cyber Boxing Zone. They are the website who says Jack Johnson vs. Jim Battling Johnson was a 20 round match. Since Jack quit in 10 rounds, Jim should have been the new champ.
     
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    I must have gone wrong somwhere then.
     
  4. yes ,you were wrong in the past:deal
     
  5. mcvey

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    Its a worrying thought ,isn't it?
     
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    I posted that in the early hours,perhaps I may be forgiven for a ONE letter mistake.
    What is your excuse for the posts you produce Mr Chimp?

    Several posters including Matt Donnellon have shown the original bill on this forum everyone knows it was 10rds but you keep on making a **** of yourself, it is your metier .
    Roll on April.
     
  8. janitor

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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Throwing was both legal under LPR and a tactic that required\ skill to pull off effectively. See, e.g.:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=9c...&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

    http://books.google.com/books?id=Ki...&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

    http://books.google.com/books?id=u9...esnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q&f=false

    http://books.google.com/books?id=uX...&ved=0CFcQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=boxing&f=false



    Choking was borderline, but Heenan used a guillotine choke like modern Brazilian Jiujitsu players use to great effect.
     
  10. janitor

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    Had unrestricted choking been alowed then I imagine that we would have seen a lot more early knockouts.

    The rules of that period really didnt facilitate early knockouts.
     
  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thing is,Sullivan did n't box,as we know it. His style of fighting was in that transitional era between old time prizefighting and modern boxing. Even by Johnson's time,the fight game had changed a bit.
     
  12. janitor

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    Modern boxing as we would think of it, predates the gloved era in many ways. It was the fighters who employed this style like Mace and Sullivan who piloted the move towards Queensbury boxing.

    Strange as it may sound, the cart came before the horse here.
     
  13. Ramon Rojo

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    I haven't seen Sullivan fight, but...

    Johnson by KO1
     
  14. mcvey

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    Thanks for the input ,I excluded throwing .:good
     
  15. Seamus

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    On the otherhand, I think a prime Sullivan would tear apart the Jeffries that fought Johnson. So, I ain't taking Johnson in 1.

    Those who are claiming Sullivan to be without skills are unread, uncouth and err... unsmart. Read some contemporary accounts of his immense speed, strength and yes, skill.