Prime Lewis vs. Prime Bowe.

Bowe didn't have particularly quick hands. Not as fast as Lennox. And technically he was worse. That's why I just don't see him beating Lewis. Dino makes an argument that Bowe took something from Golota. To be fair, maybe he did. Golota looked really good vs Bowe, better than I've seen him before or after. On the other OTHER hand, that sort of plays into your argument that Bowe MADE Golota look good ... :?

 

After a few scary moments, lewis on points.

 

Marciano and Ali never blatantly ducked anyone like Bowe did.

The fact he vacated the WBC title to avoid Lewis shows he wasn't confident about winning if he had fought LL.

 

The best opponent Bowe and Lewis met/beat was Evander Holyfield, prime for Bowe , faded for Lewis.

Lewis fought very cautious against that faded Holyfield version and won both IMO but did not look good doing so, against a fresh Holyfield he might have gotten out hustled.

Bowe beat a prime undefeated Holyfield into the ground and had him almost out in the first encounter, lost a razor thin decision in the rematch with all kind of distractions helping Holyfield to get his second wind. Fan man and a Bowe's wife collapsing certainly did not help Rid****. A washed up Bowe finally put down Holyfield for good in the rubber match.

Lewis's achilles heal is his chin, he has never gotten up from a knock down to continue, you put him down, he stays down. Bowe would force Lewis into a dog fight and eventually land something big to short cut Lewis. I am sure Bowe can take Lewis's best a few times vs Lewis cannot take Bowe's best....Fact....getting sparked not once but twice by mediocre ham and eggers is not the sign of a stellar chin for a battle in the trenches.

 

Bowe is grossly overrated. His career was essentially over at 28 in part because he was so easy to hit, even when facing low level scrubs. Seeing all the crashing right hands a complete journeyman like bigfoot martin was landing flush on him suggests Lewis would slaughter him. Bowe and his camp probably thought the same so they shamelessly ducked Lewis like no tomorrow.

 

Guess that explains Lewis' losses to Mercer, Golota, Ruddock, Tyson and Tua...and Vitali, if only Lewis could have taken a punch he might have won these fights.

The stupidity around here is sometimes mind-boggling.

 

Maybe Golota was damaged by Bowe or maybe it gave him confidence and improved him. Before Bowe his best win was against Nicholson. The fights vs Bowe might have given him the belief he could cut it with the big boys.

Your argument is that Golota was great vs Bowe but somehow all those punches he landed on Rid**** left him a wreck by the time Lewis got him less than a year later and his 'skills and superb defence' had left him. In that year he was no longer 'prime, motivated and full of confidence' despite having performed so well in his two fights with Bowe.

'Those poppin eyes' you talk about may well have been the eyes of someone who knew he was in with a much harder hitter than Bowe and who realised he was out of his depth.

Personally I don't rate Golota that highly. His whole reputation is built on his two fights with Bowe and, despite having fought a few of the names of that time, only Bowe managed to make him look all that.

 

Well that's just a pitiful argument. Lewis and his team turned down two respectable offers to make the fight happen.

Frank Maloney is quoted here as saying Lewis would have to be paid over $10m if he was to take the fight. Google it.

They were trying to black mail Bowe using the crazy bid Don King put in for the rights to a Lewis vs Tucker fight.

When Lewis eventually felt he was ready the fight was made. All Lewis had to do was get past MaCall. Lewis blew the fight , not Bowe. So how exactly is Bowe mentally weak again?:huh

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If he couldn't beat MaCall , he wouldn't have beaten Bowe.

 

No, a doctor dopped him up in the dressing room. Look it up.

 

There must be some kind of alarm going off in your basement whenever something even remotely critical of Lemmie is mentioned.

But I give you that, you are at least a coherent Lewis apologist.

 

You are full of the proverbial. Bowe took nothing away from Golota other than a sore pair of bollox, which he thoroughly deserved because HE initiated the fouling. He quit like a dog, but got the crooked Murican referee to do the quitting for him. TWICE.

 

Which is a fukking lot more than can be said for a moron who thinks he is being clever by calling someone LEMMIE when his name is Lennox.:nut

You see there is a difference.

I for instance can refer to that rap!st slime Tyson, as " the rap!st " because he has been, tried, convicted, and sentenced for r.a.p.e.

You referring to Lennox, as LEMMIE makes you look a d!ckhead.

 

Can't see anything. Can you post a link?

 

Agree with this in that Bowe took nothing from Golota. Agree he also took a sore pair of nads, too.

Not sure Bowe quit, though. Lou Duva did that thing where he whacked someone wearing a foul protector in the crotch with a baseball bat to show that it couldn't have hurt Bowe all that much. But I think Bowe hung tough. Bowe's chin gets overrated but his willingness to suck it up deserves all the praise it gets.

But the same can be said for Lewis. He took some stick from much bigger hitters than Bowe faced and fought right back. This would have been a barnburner because they were both very brave, tough men.

 

Golata was no sure fire miss prospect when he fought Bowe. He went in as a big big underdog. Just like Bowe's other opponents like Donald. And Gonzales. And Hide. Mathis jr.and all those 2nd tier fellas.

Golata came into the Bowe fight with his previous form being less than stirring efforts against Nicholson and a few no names and the Pouha fight. If you did not bother watching his career develop, some other folks on this forum did watch those fights. Andrew at best was a borderline prospect. Nothing more.

Some more food for thought regarding Golata---he faced what 3 big hitters? How long did he last? How did that defense do? Since it is so bad and hurts your argument of what a terrific fighter he was, go ahead and use the sum of the rounds.

Why couldn't a 28 year old guy like Bowe solve him? He had how many rounds to do it? I saw one guy getting hit a bunch and astonishingly enough, it was not Golata. Why was that such a big mountain? He holds those hands low. His head is always at noon with zero movement. And he walks in. 3 other guys knew what to do with that kind of silver platter, didn't they?