Prime Lewis vs Prime Holyfield

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by elgoadie, Jun 23, 2009.


  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not silly at all, if you want to argue about it on a round by round basis I'm willing. I've done so on numerous occassions in the general thread.

    It wasn't a hard fight to call. If I gave Holyfield every close round I get to 7-5 Lewis, under no circumstance do I give this fight to Holyfield. And this is based on that fight alone, nothing to do with the outcome of the first fight. And it wasn't just me, last time I participated in this type of discussion there was a poll as well, and about 80% of the pollsters picked Lewis.
     
  2. kmcc505

    kmcc505 Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    And that poll was on this forum. So this one group of people thinks it so it must be true. In any event, I had it 6-6 like I said. I can see 7-5 either way but 8-4 is silly. You can break down the rounds if you want and I will, too. But I don't see us agreeing with each other if we both have already scored the fight more than once which it sounds like we both have.
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think it's one group of people, it just is what it is. It's not a particularly hard fight to score and I've seen the fight several times and even trying, I can't get a draw for Holyfield. And I like both fighters so I don't have a particular bias against either one, other than the fact I think Lewis had a better heavyweight career than Holyfield but Holyfield smokes Lewis on a P4P list.
     
  4. kmcc505

    kmcc505 Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Fair enough, Van. Maybe I'll rescore and see what I come up with this time. Like I said, I had it a draw last time.
     
  5. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll take Holyfield by UD.
     
  6. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Silver, I thought Lewis was handed this decision on the premise that Eugenia Williams was paid off by Don King.

    That woman should never be allowed to judge another important boxing contest again. I'd ban her and John Ruiz from boxing if I had the power.

    As for Holyfield vs Lewis II, a draw would have been the fairer decision because Holyfield looked much better in the rematch and Lennox resorted to backing up and jabbing.

    One thing is for sure about the rematch, Holyfield hurt Lewis way more than Lewis hurt Holyfield.
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Clearly Evander, possibly by stopage ... Lewis could barely do **** with a 37 year old Evander ...
     
  8. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    The old version of Holyfield gave Lewis trouble in their rematch. Based on that, I think a prime Holyfield would be a serious threat to Lewis because he wouldn't fight only in spurts like the 1999 version.
     
  9. kmcc505

    kmcc505 Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Prime Holy would fight much better against Prime Lewis than old Holy did. I like Holy to win by UD but in a close fight.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd favour Lewis on points. While the 2nd fight was closer (I had it 7-5 to Lewis) you still can't ignore the first fight. Whenever Lewis has faced an opponent he had something to prove against and knew he had to be at his best he took it to another level, as against Ruddock, Golota, Holyfield 1 and Rahman 2.

    Holyfield in his prime was more active and fired in rapid combo's but he was also prone to stay in the pocket for too long and take uneccessary punishment as in the first Bowe fight. I see it as a very tough fight much like Lewis/Mercer but I see Lewis being able to keep Evander off him for long enough and often enough to earn a close decision.

    I must say though I do think Holyfield is very underrated on this forum
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Holyfield on his best night beats Lewis on his best night in my eyes.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you call couldn't do **** against him winning around 17 out of 24 rounds then I agree. :good
     
  13. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    This.