Prime Marciano V Tysons Challengers?

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Don't be silly. 12 to 15 pounds extra weight doesn't turn a 187 pound athlete into a "beach ball".
    Fat, retired Marciano must have been at least 240, probably more.

    It's right to say he was best at his fighting weight though, and there's no need to make fantasy versions.
     
  2. foreman&dempsey

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    No.ALL YOU WHO INVENT WEIGHTS FOR A FIGHTER THAT NEVER WAS A REALITY ARE SILLY,NOT ME. marciano weighed 205 at 40 himself said it.and he was a pork. Rocky even fought once at 178
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Marciano was up to 225 pounds the year after he retired. He got back in the gym and took 10 pounds off.

    [url]https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19570723&id=TEgaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=WCYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7093,1673798&hl=en[/url]


    The Marciano of the 1960s must have been well over 225. At least 240 and probably 250+. The man was plain fat in the 1960s.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    Do you have any common sense ?
    Try using some real life experience. 15 pounds of fat doesn't turn a man from an athlete with a 32 inch waist into a porky beach ball.
    You only have to live on planet earth and be vaguely human to work that one out.
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    I think Tyson only has a clear hand speed advantage for the first few rounds, Tyson slowed down a lot as fights progressed.
     
  6. foreman&dempsey

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    He said that rocky could fight in shape easily at 215 pounds. It is a complete bull ****. When you are a 185 pounder in shape fighter at 200 you would start to feel the extra weight AnD you would lose stamima. At 215 you would be ****. If you defend it you know **** about this sport
     
  7. foreman&dempsey

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    Lol in the computer fight 1969 marciano was a fat and he weighed 195!!! They say that in the video.250.... Lmao you are crazy.you put 250 pounds in the frame of rock y and congratulations you got butterbean!!!
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    If you read my post I said you're right about that. 185, 188 was his weight, his best possible weight, let's say. We agree on that.

    I was responding to your other statement, about Rocky would be a blob at 200 or 205 whatever. 15 extra pounds. He'd just be a little bulky, appearance-wise.
    He COULD - and many fighters DO - fight in that kind of shape, but, yes, he wouldn't be as effective.

    :good
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Come on, man, he was way more than 195 in that film. Don't take the commentary seriously .... or the fight for that matter.
    Even allowing for possible significant muscle wastage, he must have been at least 215 or 220.

    This version of Rocky must be at least 240 :

    [url]http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/u/u/thumbs/2013/May/16/997d7013d244_sf_5.jpg[/url]
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    I know your a troll but interesting there is a picture of 192 pound Marciano against Simmons and he looks very solid and strongly built, not a fat roll to be seen. Biggest his legs and arms looked.
     
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    Rocky was 192 against Simmons and looked very strong in the picture we have, actually probably a healthier weight for him.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Next thing will be Marciano would have been more effective at 200lbs!
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    He is significantly bigger. I said Rocky could easily bulk up to make the difference in size insignificant.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    How dare any world class fighter try to put on 20 pounds of muscle. They are what they are, period.
     
  15. mcvey

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    They are what they are ,but their fans always want , in a reflex defence of them, to re-mould them with hypothetical comments like ,"today he would be 30lbs heavier ,3 inches taller" have different colour eyes and other BS.

    WHAT HE WOULD NOT BE IS MARCIANO!:patsch