Prime Riddick Bowe vs prime Rocky Marciano (12 rounds)

wasn't that a bodyshot?mercer first headshot knockdown was from wlad left hook

 

No I think it started from a lefthook on his head. The bodyshot was the second shot. The first Tyson fight was a bodyshot and more of a balance shot, but Holyfield hurt Tyson pretty good in the first round of the second fight. Holyfield could get his shots in.

 

Size difference is huge,I doubt Marciano would be able to get close to Bowe who had good boxing skills,an excellent jab.Even if he did catch Bowe bowe had a good chin in his prime.Riddick wins a ud or maybe a late tko of Marciano from accumlulatation of punishment

 

3:07 first time Mercer had ever been dropped. It was a nice lefthook


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Marciano hit way harder than Holyfield. As did Joe Louis, who were both within the same ballpark. You're trying to use this accuracy bul**** to justify your statement. I mention Foreman who downplayed Holyfield's power significantly because nobody in their right mind talked about how Marciano didn't hurt or didn't have power. And Foreman knew this, Archie told him about 100 times. Here's something for you... Holyfield couldn't put any real dent in Bowe in their first fight. Marciano would hurt him ALL OVER

 

I'm telling you there isn't a more viable super-heavyweight matchup for Marciano to come out victorious in. Maybe the Wlad fight, but I'd think Wlad would use his jab and distance. That's the only alternative... Bowe would come to fight and he would be getting busted up. In 15 rounds, I swear Marciano would have him ****ing breaking down. This is his best matchup against the real big superheavyweights. It's surely a styles and fight thing.

 

It would certainly be a fight worth paying for.
Marciano and Bowe both liked to fight. It would be war.

 

Across 12 rounds of grueling war, '92 Bowe earns a close decision over '52 Marciano, but has his physical prime brutally beaten out of him.

If this were a 15 round war, then I would expect Rocky to viciously TKO Bowe in the final 3 rounds of hell.

 

agreed....but then again isnt denial great

 

As much as it pains me to say it I have to go with a prime Bowe here. Size isn't everything but size and ability account for a lot and a prime Bowe had both. Marciano would be a tough night out for anyone but I don't see how he takes this one. Marciano's best hope is for a ko and that doesn't bode well for him. Rocky was used to fighting men in the 175-200 lb range generally speaking and Bowe was much bigger than that. And while Rocky could punch he wasn't hitting fighters the size of Bowe. Could Rocky hit hard enough to knock Bowe senseless? Even if he could, could he reach often enough to get the job done? He's giving away 6-7" in height and nearly 14" in reach! If Bowe elects to box behind his jab and smother Rocky up close it's a long night for Marciano. Rocky never fought a quality super heavy like Bowe was...at least a prime motivated in shape Bowe and it may prove to be too much to ask of Marciano. Holyfield won his 2nd fight with Bowe because he chose to box from the outside, stick and move and jab and not engage Bowe too often in heavy exchanges. That's not the way Rocky fights. He would have to somehow work his way in close without eating too many bombs in order to land his own and I don't like his chances. Possible? Of course..after all he's still Rocky Marciano but likely? No.

 

I'm not justifying anything. I just posted a video showing you facts. I've always stated Holyfield is one of the most accurate punchers in boxing. You can swear all you want but you don't know **** about boxing.

 

marciano paid his dues within his era and was the best heavyweigt of his generation. he reached a peak, maintained it then cleaned out a division. bowe did not. he looked like he could be, beat a champion far smaller than he, threw a belt in the bin, lost to the smaller ex-champion then never impressed again and retired young. even including stylistic and size viewpoint bowe just didnt pay his dues nearly as much as marciano. bowe just was never reliable and he would not be here. sure he would outweigh marciano and land some great jabs but he would become frustrated inside, lose focus and tire very quickly. marciano could aford to take a few shots from bowe but he could not aford to take too many of marcianos overhand rights.

 

Why the **** are you responding to this quote that has absolutely nothing to do with you. Go play and traffic and tell me how Mike Tyson would KO Tokyo Douglas inside of 1 round anytime before 1990.

As for being too dumb to quote the proper post. Yeah, sure Holyfield is accurate. I'm not disputing that dip**** so why are you even bringing it up. Yeah, what do these facts show? You like to hear your own voice.

Asinine.

 

Holyfield did not drop Mercer in the conventional sense .. Holyfield hit him with a hook to the body that cracked a rib and Mercer took a knee ... technically a knockdown but not like when Wlad dropped him many years later ...

 

It's no knock on Marciano to say he loses to Bowe . Bowe at his best was an excellent fighter ... huge, very strong, very fast, very good power, an excellent infighter with a solid chin and a huge heart.... to ask any man to give up 6" in height, way over a foot in reach, 45 pounds in muscle in a prime for prime match up is a hell of a challenge .. then you factor styles .. Marciano was a slow starting, cagey offensive minded slugger who had to bulldoze his way inside v.s. Bowe who started fast and teed off on small heavyweights, really blowing them out , it's an unfair match up..... to say Marciano out wills Bowe ect is a complete leap of faith ... Rocky never fought anyone close to Bowe's size and skill set in their physical prime, no one. You cannot really make an analogy based on any actual performance.

Marciano was a great fighter. Marciano was pound for pound a better fighter than Bowe ... head to head I like Bowe.