Prime Riddick Bowe vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Wow a 38 years old undertrained champion,scaling a career high weight is more tired than his 32 years old challenger!


    Here is a report of the last round.


    "For the first minute of the sixth round Klitschko once again was busier than Lewis, until Lennox landed the best punch of the fight, a right uppercut that shook Vitali for a brief second. That was shortly followed by a clean left hook while Vitali's back was to the ropes . As the round was concluding Klitschko was holding on as Lewis was trying to get room to punch. Right before the bell Lewis scored with another big right uppercut and went back to his corner and sat down hard on his stool
    Lennox had put in a big 6th round and had Vitali hanging on at the bell ,of course he was more tired than his opponent.:patsch
     
  2. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    prime Vitali went life and death with the worst version of Lennox Lewis.

    The Bowe that first beat Holyfield would easily beat this guy. Better jab, and his infighting is great for a big man. Lennox's infighting at 38 and in the worst shape of his life destroyed Klitschko
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree,which worries me a bit.:oops::think
     
  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would take Vitali's resume over Bowe's despite the fact that Bowe has the best win over Holyfield.
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    He might have a slight bit more depth, but frankly I think its pretty close.
     
  6. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe easily outjabs Vitali and walks through his shots to batter Vitali on the inside.
    I see a Bowe vs Gonzalez type of event. Haven't seen anything from Vitali that
    could trouble a PRIME Bowe. Bowe had too great a jab, inside game, chin, mean streak
    and trainer to be deterred by Vitali. Bowe TKO/KO 7.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's close but clear that Vitali has the stronger resume.
     
  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bowe had the superior trainer(who I might add abandoned him and called him a lost cause) he also was the superior inside fighter and did possess a mean streak. He was also more fluid offensively I give him all that but I don't beleive his jab was that much better, and he is not walking through Vitali's shots. Vitali isn't as big a puncher as his brother or Lewis but he can hit and to call the fight a similar event to the Gonzalez fight is rediculous. Gonzalez was a bum!
    Tough fight to call
     
  9. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali couldn't even knockdown Arreola. Arreola's a tough dude, but
    not on Bowe's level. If anything, Bowe did better against bigger guys.
    Vitali dosen't have the legs to stay away, or the punch to keep Bowe
    off of him. Bowe outclasses Vitali. Vitali is the goods, simply a lower
    caliber fighter than Big Daddy imo.
     
  10. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep I agree 100%

    I've just watched the 1st Bowe/Holy again, jeez what a battle, Bowe indeed was a quality operator, such speed of punch combination for such a big man, he'd handle Vitali with considerable ease, pity Bowe never got into that good shape again in his career. I recall reading way back that after winning the title Riddick bought a new house & as an extra he made sure it had an on-suite Kitchen fitted out with rotisserie's & such, just in case he woke up & needed a quick roast chicken!
     
  11. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HaHa. Sometimes knowing what you want is the hardest thing in life.
    Bowe had it all figured out in that regard, Ive heard Bigmacs were Bowes personal fave.
     
  12. latineg

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    I think that you "sensed" you could be confused agreeing with "I know Everything", I think you were correct.

    I do not get the 'BOWE' over-rating that has gone on and on.

    Bowe fought a smaller Holyfield in a mano de mano type fights that were awesome back and forth wars whereas, Lewis's always looked to be weary of Holy in both their fights. This to me is what helped create the over the top type of over-rating of Bowe thereafter.

    Bowe had a great jab , great size, great chin and in many ways had most of the physical abilities to be GREAT.

    Well that to me is another reason why he became so OVER-RATED.

    The thing is Bowe is rated as highly on not what he did but on what everyone BELIEVEs he could have done if he would of been intensely committed to "TRAINING" ,,, well fine, same can be said for many. So maybe it really applies more so for Bowe than most, well big deal.

    Right there I have a problem with Bowe.

    Yeah blah blah, styles make fights and thus saying that Golota gave Bowe fits whereas Lewis rolled threw him like butter can be claimed as simply Golota having Bowe's number style wise. Well I say BULL****, I say that Bowe was not well suited to fighting guys his SIZE that could hit him from long range before he could get close and do damage. I understand the confusion, at his best Bowe's jab looked even better than Lewis's jab and at Lewis's best Lennox's jab is pretty great even if he so often did not use it nearly as well as he should of. Well for fook sakes, either did Bowe. So styles do make fights and just because Lewis thrashed Golota and Bowe struggled with Golota does not mean for sure Lewis was better than Bowe, however, it seriously could mean that Lewis was better than Bowe. Simply put its not the only factor one should use to determine this. Just as Bowe going toe to toe with Holy in 3 wars taking huge shots that Lewis may not have stood up to should not be the only determining factor to claim that Bowe was as good or better than Lewis.

    If Bowe would have had any GREAT performances against any top ranked fighter in his prime other than Holy I would give him credit where his credit was due, however, other than Holy who did Bowe beat that was close to or prime and at top level ? Larry Donald and Herbie Hide ???

    The facts remain Bowes overall resume sucks when compared to most that have ever been considered great. The fact is there are many that simply believe Bowe could of been far greater than he ever was and thus simply have adjusted their RATINGs of him based on what could of been rather than what was.
     
  13. hookfromhell

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    You can pick apart anyone 's resume my dude. You could say Ruddock was
    shot when he fought Lewis, so was Biggs, Golota had a mental beakdown,
    Grant was a hypejob, Briggs sucked, Tyson was shot,etc. But in this battle
    of resumes Bowe's is superior to Vitali's. The wins over Holy alone are superior
    and Biggs,Tubbs,Seldon, Gonzalez, are great wins, not atgs. Better than Vitali
    wins over shot Briggs, Peter, etc. Is Vitali the only guyy to stop Purrity though?
    I just happen to believe tha Bowe was so talented for that year or 18 months
    that he could have beaten anyone. Futch was a genius, trained 2 fighters to
    beat Ali. Futch even said Bowe had the POTENTIAL to be the greatest he ever
    Saw. Vitalis a beast too slow, his awkaward style works against him in a
    fight with a polished skill set like Bowe.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    McVey is all over this one.
     
  15. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    For sure Bowe CAN'T stop Vitali, but who knows whether or not prime Vitali could outwork, and stop the naturally LAZY Bowe?