Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by sppedboy22, Jul 9, 2020.
Foreman by brutal...very brutal ko early.
So yet another boxer says that a person he beat was the hardest puncher he ever fought....
Big George (mid-1973) v Iron Mike (mid-1988)
I'd bet on the grill man in a fight that was somewhere between Foreman-Frazier (1) and Foreman- Lyle.
I will trust that you have been generally restrained & civil.
And the guy who starts things is more at fault.
If you call someone lady, ill-informed & condescending & can support it that is fine & also a virtue.
But saying someone is a clown & stupid is name calling.
It erodes the credibility & makes you sound as bad as the original offender &/or troll.
The most you can say is that arguably that it falls short of vicious. And arguably it falls short of hate speech if that is defined as insulting a category of people as in racism, or is not as nasty as some insults.
But even if given this benefit of the doubt it is still mean.
It is not dispassionate debate or even angry & self-righteous condemning of bad conduct.
You do it, more hate follows.
Of course one should "censor" themselves in some matters-only maybe some Saints never feel like name calling when sufficiently provoked. Whether not hitting someone or acting on say any sexual impulse, censorship-& reducing inappropriate reactive impulses-is self-censorship that allows civilization-& prevents us from putting ourselves at unnecessary risk.
You may be correct about the forum being worse, at least than 15 years ago, a bit before my time here.
The other factors you cite likely apply-though new excellent posters also arrived.
But at least compared to 5 or 10 years ago, it seems better to me because there is less abuse & hate.
As I have told a friend who has another boxing forum.
Anyway I did not report you, I use that sparingly, & try to critique people first.
If they refuse to change or respond with abuse, then they should be disciplined.
You have no cause to assume I report anyone whose posts I dislike.
But if we all non-abusively condemned childish & malicious abuse-that most would not do in person-this place would be better.
everything you said is right all these crazy followers use the same quotes George would push mike wouldnt help him land punches so dumb statement
and he was nothing like joe so why keep comparing them weird they fought nothing alike easy to see by watching which they wont
somebody who can see mike was nothing like joe and George was slow with bad defense
no it doesn't u dumb follower pushing dont win matches
the push quote always been so weird and dumb no match ever was or would win by pushing mike would counter easy it's not a advantage doing it
facts everything you said is right comparing to joe is weird always have been fought nothing alike even fighting range was different joe was close
Mike was mid range
Holyfield did it
how come your trolling couple days ago u agreed now saying that holy pushed mike did he beat him with pushes cause u just said he did it cause it's a lie holy tied up and outboxed mike and was able to stop him from landing alot
I'm not trolling. Thats was a different match up, Lewis vs Foreman. this match up is Tyson vs Foreman. I think Foreman would beat Tyson. Bad style match up for Mike. Mike got pushed around by Holyfield, he'd get pushed around by Foreman and just ad Douglas landed uppercuts, Foreman would too.
Foreman from the Ali fight gets Ko'ed flat against prime Tyson , no ifs or buts......you cannot under any circumstances walk straight in on Tyson and trade and using your face as a defense............you have to keep him off balance with the jab, tie him up when he gets close and use upper cuts.....at lot easier said than done..............Douglas never traded except one time when he got himself almost ko'ed.............Holyfield never traded with the washed up Bodybuilder Tyson, he clinched and clinched and clinched and even when throwing the entire kitchen sink at him who had not done road work since the Spinks fight he just got a standing TKO..........Lewis did not trade with a even worse version, the Tyson impersonator and it took him 2/3 of the fight to get rid of him.
Foreman " The Mummy" absolute disregard for defense will be his undoing and Tyson will finish what Lyle started, bank on it.
Speed kills plus Tyson had one of the best defenses for a heavyweight......until Douglas you can count on ONE hand how often he had been hit with hard punches.
so u see this here you dont see anywhere it says where George fought like any of those guys so no it's not a bad match for mike your weird for even thinking that made sense to say from other crazy followers he needs to fight like these guys to beat mike or he wont land much just like sau said which is where I got the breakdown
Could go either way, but I'm going for Tyson. If Ali can KO him, then Tyson can.
yea easy to see