Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You are an infant who cannot present an argument without resorting to childish insults your" arguments " are risible in the extreme ,the sooner they **** you off again the better.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Bob Foster never beat a heavyweight of even remotely top class he had been wrecked by light hitting Ernie Terrell, resoundingly thrashed by Zora Folley, one judge scoring it a shut out and stopped by 182lbs Doug Jones the only 3 heavyweights of note he had fought when he challenged Frazier he was deservedly unranked when he fought Frazier.

    He was a soft defence just like Daniels ,Stander , Zygliewisz,and the hyped Ramos.

    Bonecrusher had the height, weight, and strength to smother Tyson plus he fought just to survive.Frazier did not have any of those attributes and Frazier only knew one way to fight ,come straight to you ,against a man who had faster hands 35lbs of wieght on you ,a two fisted attack , more power,a better chin, and a better variety of punches that is fistic suicide.

    Oscar Bonavena a crude brawling slugger met Frazier in the trenches, floored him twice and hurt him badly,Bonavena was never off his feet in two fights.
    Tyson was light years better than Bonavena in speed ,durability,power, defence,and skills.
    Frazier doesn't get past the halfway mark before being sparked or rescued.
     
  3. Nighttrain

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    the Bob Foster that Joe Frazier fought would have beaten Michael Spinks of the vintage that faced Tyson. Spinks faced an old Holmes. Fraizer's ripping hookswould keep Tyson honest.
     
  4. mcvey

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    That is your opinion it is not a fact.
    I happen to think Foster is one of the very great lhvys but Spinks would always be a very tough fight for him,and a muscled up 212lbs Spinks would deservedly start favourite over Foster because of Foster's track record against heavyweights of any ability.

    Tyson takes out Frazier imo, and I think it would be quick.
    Tyson has every physical advantage ,reach,speed, two handed power, superior power ,better defence, better chin, , bigger man, better variety of punches , better tested against power punchers, the left hooks of Bruno and Ruddock,the right hand of Smith.

    How can anyone rationally pick against that?:huh
     
  5. Azzer85

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    Tyson did Ko people in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th as well

    he also showed his power late when he knocked down Ruddock in one of the late rounds and obviously Douglas in round 9 and stopped Ribalta in 10.

    Also, Frazier and Smith boxed nothing alike. I dont know if you've seen the fight, but Smith didnt even throw a punch until the last 10 seconds of the 12th round, hes lucky he wasnt DQd because all he did all night was clinch.
     
  6. Azzer85

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    But but but Frazier nearly died in FOTC
     
  7. heavy_handss

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    he kd douglas in round 8 not 9 ****ing ******.
     
  9. heavy_handss

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    tyson did not have longer reach than frazier,JOE HAD THE LONGER REACH, TYSON HAD 71" AND FRAZIER 73". tyson was not bigger than frazier, they were around the same size in frame, simply tyson got packed of muscle,BEING 10 POUNDS HEAVIER OF MUSCLE DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE NATURALLY BIGGER, EVEN FOREMAN WEIGHED 217 FOR THE FRAZIER FIGHT AND TYSON WEIGHED 221 FOR THE BERBICK FIGHT, STILL FOREMAN HAD MUCH BIGGER FRAME THAN TYSON, when tyson got older and he did not train his musculature you can see that he was not bigger than frazier, you could argue even that frazier had lightly bigger frame, tyson had superrior power with the right hand, frazier had a better left hand, frazier was a better body puncher, i agree that tyson had the wider arsenal
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    you are very ignorant. a horrible biased post and it wasn't even close frazier had a way better chin, better defence, better variety of punches. TYSON'S REACH WAS 71 INCHES. FRAZIER'S WAS 73. KEEP LYING ****SUCKER. you have been exposed by many people like houdini, mendoza, alisucks, and myself and i find it funny as soon as someone fights with you they slowly dissapear like houdini. when houdini was last online he was arguing against a certain poster. YOU!
     
  11. Azzer85

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    Well done, give yourself a pat on the back :good

    If you were here, id give you a gold star you can stick on your colouring book:thumbsup
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

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  13. Seamus

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    Tyson blasts out the slower starting, slower moving Frazier who never gets out of the starting blocks.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Congrats!!! You got ONE right, Frazier has the longer reach
    Frazier
    Chest 42
    Ex Chest44
    Biceps 15
    Forearm 12
    Neck 17
    Wrist 8
    Calf 13
    Ankle 10
    Thigh 26
    Height 5'11"
    Weight 205

    Tyson
    Chest 43 1"bigger
    Ex Chest 45 1.5" bigger
    Biceps 16 1" bigger
    Forearm14 2" bigger
    Neck 19.75 2,75" bigger
    Wrist 8 Equal
    Calf 18 5" bigger
    Ankle 11 1" bigger
    Thigh 27 1" bigger
    Height 5' 11" Equal* Frazier may be .25" taller
    Weight 221 16lbs bigger* Using the weights that both won the undisputed title/defining fight
    ie Ali + Berbick



    Same ****,different day.
     
  15. mcvey

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    You have a standing invitation to produce anything detrimental to me,and I will happily rebutt it.

    It 's not my fault your partner in crime got his marching orders but aside from you I doubt anyone will miss him.

    Houdini was a decent poster, I dont think he was banned?
    Ali Sucks, Mendoza , and yourself are borderline special needs.