Prime Tyson vs Wladimir Klitschko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoykaKing, Mar 15, 2018.


Who wins

  1. Tyson

    88 vote(s)
    68.2%
  2. Klitschko

    34 vote(s)
    26.4%
  3. Tyson bites him because Wlad cheats too much

    7 vote(s)
    5.4%
  1. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Tyson would knock him out in few rounds.
    You can't beat Tyson if you have panic attacks everytime your opponent is in your face.
     
  2. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Prime IM is all levels of wrong for Wlad.

    They would be scraping poor Klitschko off the canvas after only 3 rounds.
     
  3. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Also some of those heights are exaggerated. Tony Tucker is listed as 6'3" on celibrityheights etc.
     
  4. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Big HWs Mike Tyson stopped -

    TKO2 -6'4 Conroy Nelson
    TKO1 -6'5 Sammy Scaff
    TKO1- 6'6 David Jaco
    TKO5- 6'5 Mike Jameson
    TKO1 -6'3 Reggie Gross
    TKO10- 6'5 Jose Rabalta
    TKO2- 6'4 Alfonzo Ratliff
    TKO6 -6'3 Pinklon Thomas
    TKO7 - 6'5 Tyrell Biggs
    TKO2 - 6'3 Tony Tubbs
    KO1 - 6'4 Carl Williams
    KO1 - 6'3 Henry Tillman
    TKO2 - 6'4 Andrew Golota

    TKO 0:23- 6'5 Lou Savarese. Tyson floored the undermatched Saverese just 15 seconds after the opening round.

    It wasn't the first time he met a 6'5 HW and Green was battered and bruised all over the ring losing all 10 rounds in lop sided fashion.
    Is your argument that Wladimir Klitschko can take a pummeling for 10 rounds?

    Mike Tyson pressured Green throughout, delivered some smashing blows to the head and body, and won a unanimous decision at Madison Square Garden. Tyson three times knocked out Green's mouthpiece and shook him with short, devastating punches to the head and roadhouse punches to the body

    The content you're cut and pasting from the HW Blog is factually incorrect. Its also entirely constructed from lies and manipulations.

    The scorecards to that fight were an embarrassing - 120- 106 , 119- 107 , 119-107. Bonecrusher saved himself from a stoppage loss from holding excessively but that still didn't prevent Tyson from getting through and landing a whopping 50% of his power punches.
    Wladimir Klitschko would not have endured that kind of punishment for 2 round , let alone 12 rounds.


    Tucker used good movement to dance away from Tyson yet he still lost almost every round. Despite the negative performance on the back foot , Tyson still landed with a 50% connect rate and hit Tucker good hard shots all night.
    Wladimir Klitschko did not have consistent movement on the back foot , nor the chin to survive the distance like Tucker did.

    The Sam Peter , Lamon Brewster and Alex Povetkin fights prove that Wladimir Klitschko would not have the skills or movement to keep Tyson off him.
    One clean hit off Mike Tyson would send Wladimir Klitschko straight into the upside down.
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Andrew Golota was a no contest because both were caught for drugs.

    The rest of those 6 foot 3 + opponents Mike Tyson stopped were all bums (boxers with 25% or more losses out of their career record). They don't count!

    The only non - bum 6 foot 3+ heavyweight Mike Tyson ever stopped was Lou Savarese.

    Mitch Green was the first NON-BUMMY heavyweight taller than 6 foot 3 inches Mike Tyson ever faced.

    How about you address those 'lies'. What are those 'lies' you're referring to? These are facts which are supported by stats.

    I don't remember mentioning anything about the scorecard. Other than the fact that Mike Tyson failed to KO Bonecruser Smith (along with every other non-bummy heavyweight taller than 6 foot 3 inches except Lou Savarese).

    Wladimir Klitschko is not only going to be able to nullify Mike Tyson's KO punches like all these other non-bummy 6 foot 3+ inches heavyweights did. But, he could also put an offensive beat-down on Mike Tyson which those other tall + non-bummy heavyweights couldn't.

    Lamon Brewster and Samuel Peter simply weren't as small, short and range-less as Mike Tyson was. So Mike Tyson simply couldn't replicate what they did.

    No boxer shorter than 6 foot 0 inches is ever going to have anything more than a puncher's chance against Wladimir Klitschko. That's all Mike Tyson has! You have to be at least 6 foot 1 to qualify as a worthy opponent for Wladimir Klitshcko. Mike Tyson isn't!
     
  6. JacobEr

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    But Wald was an exception, when he had a panic attack, he would start furiously clinching his opponent, and this could help him.
     
  7. Outstock

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    Weed or no weed , Mike Tyson shattered the 6'4 Golota's skull.

    Saying Tyson's only stoppage against a HW taller than 6'3 was a controversial one to Lou Saverese is a lie.


    Mike Tyson would better their performances as he was better than those guys in every way. If being taller is the key to success than Marius Wach has a better chance to beat Wlad than Tyson does.
    Tyson's small height was perfect for the style he used. He was designed and constructed to get inside on bigger men.

    Thats not an argument. Klitschko never faced an ATG HW like Tyson. There was only one Mike Tyson and his style is kryptonite for a 1-2 outboxer with no inside game like Klitschko.

    The fast slipping , bobbing and weaving would prevent Klitschko landing anything on Tyson as he came in and once in close range Klitschko hasn't the inside game or the ability to shorten his punches to deal with a savage like Tyson up close.
    He has literally nothing to compete with against Tyson up close , and the fact he has a glass chin and is prone to severe panic attacks when he can't fight at his preferred pace with lots of holding , it only means one outcome is possible.
    Wladimir is simply not getting away with performing again Tyson like he did with Povetkin.

    He has two choices - fight Tyson punch for punch and get absolutely plastered or continue to hold and get disqualified.
     
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  8. Mirko

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    Tyson is all wrong for WK. too fast, would get past the pawing jab, Wlad doesn't have great counterpunching abilities and his chin would not hold up. He would get smashed and knocked out, if WK holds on and clinches then by wide unanimous decision. Tucker was 6'5 with 82 inch reach (WK has 81) and Tyson jabbed the **** out of him. Prime Tyson was able to outbox guys if he couldn't knock them out. Now, Vitali is another story and it's worth debating ..
     
  9. SmackDaBum

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    Tucker 6'3" Lewis 6'4.75" Wlad 6'5.25" Joshu 6'5.75" Wilder 6'6.5" all according to celibrityheights.
     
  10. BiggieL

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    People (in general) overlook that Tyson's true prime was extremely short. Wlad beats versions of Tyson but PRIME Tyson takes him out by round 5
     
  11. HerolGee

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    wlad has the advantage of his fans who would magically transform his ko1 loss to tyson into a bout of food poisoning, being married to a high maintenancechick and getting tripped by the ref.

    or perhaps they'll claim he was winning on points before being koed in 1.
     
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  12. SmackDaBum

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    It was. But even that version of Tyson was simply too small for Wlad. Not saying it's a bad fight, but no way he beats Klitschko.
     
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  13. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hard to forget Vlad staggering around while Corrie Sanders stalked him.
    [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrie_Sanders[/url]
     
  14. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson also said he thought Ronda Rousey might beat him prime for prime, he's a very humble and modest man now.
     
  15. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you fight a prime Tyson one thing is for sure and that's you are going to take some flush power punches especially in the early rounds, Mike just had so much speed, skill and timing in his prime that he's going to catch you, H2H the likes of Ali, Louis, Holmes, a prepared Lewis, Holyfield etc. could handle that, I don't believe Wlad has either the chin or mental toughness to be able to withstand those shots.