question about left hooks?

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  1. Mike_S

    Mike_S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I almost always throw it thumb pointing up, it's just the way I've done it. I'm going to start trying it thumb facing in more after reading this, I like how it can be landed more precise on the jaw but there is more risk of injuring your thumb if it connects early, before you've fully turned it? However I do throw mostly right hooks like this, well more like long overhands.
     
  2. bricky

    bricky New Member Full Member

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    i always found palm facing towards me was best for long range hooks, thats what worked best for me,
     
  3. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had an Armenian trainer as a kid, who trained me to throw the hook palm down. I changed it myself because I found that my hook was harder with the palm facing toward my face. Perhaps it's different body mechanics but I find the wrist a little more vulnerable to breakage when thrown palm down -it's more of a points hook or a set-up hook with the palm down. I have a skinny wrist ...that feels as though it something to do with my adaptaption.

    Alas, I train fighters to throw it palm down. I'll tweak it later, once they get more advanced and if they are more comfortable and invested in technique.
     
  4. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    i do the same
     
  5. Uchi Deshi`

    Uchi Deshi` New Member Full Member

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    Me too. I asked my trainer which it was supposed to be. He said it didn't matter. It was personal preference.
     
  6. Storamin

    Storamin New Member Full Member

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    A lot of trainers teach it either way.

    Thumb up to the body, towards you to the head.

    This way creates better contact, because the body is tall and slim, whereas the head is more squared. And if you have the thumb up on the head, a lot of times you will just hear a slap, and won't get the point in AMs.
     
  7. Uchi Deshi`

    Uchi Deshi` New Member Full Member

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    Good points.
     
  8. stittyb

    stittyb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Amateurs punch with the thumb facing them, pros punch with the glove facing up
     
  9. znaak

    znaak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not all pros does that.
     
  10. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    I would say both methods are ok, just do what is most natural for you, the only risk with having the thumb up without gloves is you catch the tip of the chin with the thumb knuckle and you can hurt it.
     
  11. Trevor Ross

    Trevor Ross New Member Full Member

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    If it's a wide looping hook then thumbs in, anywhere else thumbs up.
     
  12. Bill Humphrey

    Bill Humphrey New Member Full Member

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    I teach the left hook at my gym and it's probably one of the hardest punches to teach. This is how I was taught the left hook:

    No1. This is the only punch where you will drop your back heel and transfer the weight onto your rear leg.

    No2. By doing No 1 you can then get a good twist of the hips and shoulders through the centre axis and also get a turn on the lead foot (if your foot sticks to the floor with trainers wear boxing boots)

    No3. Your upper arm should be held 90 degrees to your torso and your lower arm adjusted to a short, medium or long range target.

    Some boxers like to keep the palm facing the floor and others have the palm facing their body, but that is down to preference. However if you use the palm facing the floor method, there is no doubt that you are not throwing a slap and are hitting the target with the knuckle part of the glove. Palm facing floor is probably a better method if throwing a longer range hook.

    The most important aspect for throwing a good left hook is that transfer of weight onto the back foot and a good body and shoulder rotation. This weight shift will pack the power in the punch and enable you to hit much faster and harder.

    If you keep any weight on the front foot you won't get a good shoulder and body rotation and you will deliver more of a weaker less powerful arm punch.

    This is a good clip of how I teach left hook:

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C4hgcUu0x58

    Hooking to the body I would always have my palms facing my body never palm facing down.
    There are variations of the left hook and I'm not going to say they are wrong but this is the most effective method I've tried and packs the most power.

    Regards Bill Humphrey
     
  13. boxbible

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    Joe frazier's hooks:

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    It looks like most of Frazier's hooks are halfway between palm down and palm in... But maybe that's because he's always hooking upwards at a taller target.
     
  14. boxbible

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    Sugar Ray Robinson... the perfect left hook!

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  15. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When throwing any punch there is a natural rotation to the fist. In the real world of boxing, there is no possible way to determine the position of the thumb at the point of contact. If that were possible then you would have to change the period of rotation to suit every punch, because the trajectory changes with the distance to the target, which in boxing has a bad habit of moving. Obviously impossible.