Question about Rocky Graziano?

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  1. The-Beast

    The-Beast Free Boo Radley Full Member

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    You guys are cracking me up! I asked a question abut a movie, and Klompton got his panties all in a bunch. I've never seen Graziano on any credible list of all time great middleweights. When he shows up on one, go ahead and *****. Until then, shush!
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    so what about henry brimm? a peak SSR drew with him. rocky knocked brimm out.
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are plenty of fighters who didn´t fight at their lowest possible weight for different reasons. Money maybe one of them.

    I know ther was no lmw division then. I used that to express that Graziano was no big mw himself. He did not have a LaMotta-like advantage over his opponents.


    So, Zale´s wins aren´t worth anything then by your logic.



    :good
     
  4. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes i agree , that on a historical level he would not rank well at all...
    But as a dispenser of excitement, the young [pre Zale] Graziano was the
    most viscerally thrilling fighter i ever saw.By far.
    With young Rocky you didn't need a referee, the warden would do...
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey burt, I´m wondering, did you ever see Lew Jenkins fighting?
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never saw Lew when he WASN'T fighting...in the street, in the bar, you name it. His right hand had a mind of it's own.
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lew jenkins was a bright shining star:good
     
  8. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, a little before my time. But I have heard he was a "bag of bones",
    who was a murderous puncher,especially with his laser right hand.
    My dad who drove a cab in NY picked Lou Ambers leaving MSG in 1941,after Jenkins kod the rugged Ambers,for the second time. Ambers
    kept muttering to his handler, "i aint got it no more ".It was Lou Ambers last fight and he was only kod twice in 100 bouts, both by Lew Jenkins.
     
  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lew jenkins was named wildest boxer ever in the ring magazine a few years ago.thats some going:good
     
  10. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Alcohol and motorcycles were his undoing..Fritzie Zivic ,no shrinking
    violet himself said after fighting Lew Jenkins, " Lew Jenkins could start
    a fight in an empty room ".Tough ******* was LEW !
     
  11. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now that is an all-time quote!!!...
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks guys, he seems to be one of the most interesting characters in boxing. His part in "in this corner" was the most entertaining IMO.
     
  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    jenkins and zivic.2 choir boys i don't think