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Hatton has a better resume than Eubank and Hamed, surely?

 

You really think Hamed has that much boxing skill?

I think he's got great physical gifts, speed, power and reflexes but he's not really skilled in any classical sense. You wouldn't teach a kid that style, because its not fundamentally correct, it relies on physical attributes more than anything.

 

Resume
Lennox Lewis
Nigel Benn
Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Chris Eubank
Naseem Hamed

 

Why is Hatton's resume ranked above worst? Second to worst is excusable.

He was one good win in all seriousness.

 

I suppose I was thinking early on in his title reign, when he could really put the punches together; reflexes combined with accuracy, a good workrate, speed and power of punch: P-4-P I would take him over any other on the list with the exception of Lewis.

However, I get your point that there is a big talent element involved; but when you talk about boxing skills you have to include natural physical talent as well, because, as with Roy Jones, it affects how the fighters' style evolves.

 

Lets not get into the Tszue debate.

Hatton has been the no1 man in that division for a time now. He unified as well - Two weight champ - Ring fighter of the year (not sure you can include that, but I did). I think there is a fair case for him to be above Hamed, and Eubank resume wise.

Ricky Hatton 44-1 resume and achivements

The Ring magazine's World Light Welterweight Champion June/2005 to present

The Ring magazine's 2005 'Fighter of the Year'

Unified belts at the weight

Former 2x IBF World Light Welterweight Champion

Former WBA World Light Welterweight Champion former

Former WBA Welterweight Champion

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Hatton's best wins at 140... 43 wins no losses

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I would have said that the Vince Phillips and Ben Tackie wins were better than beating Urango

 

I wasn't about to get into that old chestnut again. I'm giving him that as his one good win, I can't deny him that however he achieved it and whatever Tszyu was like. It looks like a good win.

The last line is pretty telling. For all those "achievements", look at who he actually beat there. Maussa, Urango...who cares?

 

Urango still has potential, but I admit Hatton is perhaps missing a long list of real good names on his resume (However there are one or two others I could perhaps add to the list I made).

 

He is, there is no depth outside Tszyu.

I think you'd be suprised if you took another glance at Eubank's who you are putting him below.

Michael Watson X2
Nigel Benn draw and win in legendary fights
Rocchigiani in Germany

That isn't better than a win over Tszyu, and then shot as **** Castillo, Urango, Maussa...whoever else you want to put here? You can find Urango's, Tackie's, Maussa's on anybodys resume, they are just fillers. It's like putting Sakio Bika down as a fantastic win for Calzaghe. Although Bika is more proven.

 

See theres two more TFFP.

 

Hatton's top 10 wins are as follows.....

Tszyu
Castillo
Collazo
Phillips
Lazcano
Tackie
Maussa
Urango
Any two from..... Rios, Magee, Hutchinson, Rowsell, Krivalopov, Oliveira, Stewart

People's issue with Hatton is that following his win over Vince Phillips, with the exception of the Tackie fight his career stagnated badly for 2 1/2 years until he fought Tszyu, whilst Witter was winning Lonsdale belts and Euro titles, Hatton was beating bums like Dennis Pedersen.

There is a lot of B-/C+ fighters on there - only the top 6 could be considered B or better.

 

It's kinda strange to me if Urango, Maussa and Tackie are catipulting Hatton above Eubank. To me they aren't that good of a win, you are supposed to win those fights. If they are worth a mention Calzaghe's resume must have a depth of about 15 names on it, likewise with Hamed who has all sorts of solid but unspectacular names.

He has Tszyu, Castillo (shot) and Collazo as his best wins IMO. Its funny to me how Hatton fans would continually deride Witter, but its apparent to me he would have been one of the top 3 wins for him.

I take the two Benn fights, the two Watson fights and Rocchi over any 5 people can come up with for Hatton. To me its hardly even debateable, but I'd like to hear a convincing argument for Hatton in these circumstances.

 

A lot of people thought Benn won the draw against Eubank.

 

A lot of people thought Collazo beat Hatton, but we are going on what is down officially on paper as a resume.

The Benn fights are legendary, a point here or there hardly makes a difference to the debate.