Ranking and Analyzing the Resumes of the top 8 Active Heavyweights

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  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Look what he did to Hughie Fury. Not even a young and fresh Parker tired him out like that.

    Size and strength is one of Pulev's biggest strengths outside of his jab. It's not Miller-class but still, he is a big boy working.
     
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    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not sure what your point really is for much of this, but I'll play along. If you really think Chagaev is better than Fury, more power to you. You are just about alone. Chagaev had atrocious title defenses. And he only had two, not 5; the wba regular belt is a joke, and less of a title fight than Furys "lineal" defenses against Paineta. Drummond was not even a top 100 hw. Skelton was fringe top 50, not remotely the level of Chisora, that's just laughable and another opinion you would be virtually alone on. And virchis did basically nothing to get the top ten ring designation he was awarded. He was maybe fringe top 20 at best(and again, not a title defense). The only real top ten wins Chagaev had were wins against Ruiz and Value, close fights both. Each about at the level of Furys dominant win over Chisora. Not even in the same universe as his win over Wlad. You can believe Chagaev is a similar level fighter to Fury, but there is little rational reason to believe so and you would be virtually alone in that belief.
     
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    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lol. You are king of the crazy takes, always have been. Until now, I've always kinda respected you going your own way, but I've never seen you get this triggered or defensive before though.

    First, you are bat**** to call Drummond a top50 HW let alone top 30. His best win was probably sedrick field (who, who know, had a losing record). He lost to the three best has he faced, one of who was top 50ish Derrick Rossy.
    Re Chagaev wins over Ruiz and valuev, I don't recall the Ruiz fight, but I'll certainly trust the opinion of the professional judges a hell of a lot more than your crazy takes that it was a close fight. I recall the Valuev fight very well, and as with most Valuev fights, it was tough to score, but the scorecards were better than the conventional wisdom on the fight. Chagaev deserved the win, but it was close. Certainly a hell of a lot closer than the shutout Fury pitched against Chisora.

    Finally, your posts are so nonlineal and all over the place. I don't even know why I'm debating you, because it's not clear what you are really arguing. Try to center in on an overall premise of mine that you disagree with and then try to construct a linear argument against it.

    Anyway, I think at your core, despite doing a **** poor job of articulating it, you are trying to say Chagaev is better than Fury, that he has a higher historical place than Fury. That is a bat**** crazy idea. Virtually no one would agree with you. And we can debate about the relative merits of Skelton vs Chisora as a win (again, you would be completely alone and have virtually no rational argument), but at the end of the day, the main point is that Furys win over Wlad is worth more than twice the entire career of Chagaev combined.
     
  4. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    More classless, blathering nonsense. You just show yourself to be the clueless imbecile everyone thinks you are.

    You really just aren't worth wasting time on. Chisoras wins over Takam and Scott were wins over fringe top ten, clear top 15 hws. His unofficial win over Helenius was against someone hyped to be the next big thing. Chisora is one of the best contenders of the decade who never had a belt. Virchis was fridge top 15. Sam was goodish, but not quite top 15, and that was easily his best win.

    Saying Skelton is comparable to Chisora and Drummond a top 50 hw just shows you are completely clueless. And thanks for accepting Fields was his best win. You prove my point for me.

    Again, you can believe that Chagaev is better than Fury, historically. But you would not only be virtually alone on this forum, but you have no half decent argument. You are reduced to arguing about how Virchis COULD have won a big fight, if only he had slept better, lol!

    Almost all your arguments are based on revisionist history. Virchis COULD have won a big fight. Chagaev SHOULD have had easy wins against Valuev and Ruiz. Guess what. None of that ACTUALLY happened.

    But feel free to keep embarrassing yourself, it's clear you don't mind being the laughingstock of the forum at all.
     
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    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    More blather. More nonsense. More arguements based on excuses, not on facts and empirical data. You just aren't very good at this are you?
     
  6. cuchulain

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    You will make an idiot of yourself if you continue debating that gormless, semi-literate twit.

    Who the hell even knows what (or who) he's blathering about most of the time.

    That said, the Opening Post was interesting. :thumbsup:
     
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    Wlad
    Povetkin
    Whyte
    Parker
    Breazeale
    Takam

    Vs

    Wlad
    Wilder
    Chisora
    Cunningham
    Hammer
    Kingpin



    AJs resume is a little better imo.
     
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