Ray Leonard vs James Toney

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  1. vipers

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    12 rounds middleweight who wins and why?
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Leonard because of movement
     
  3. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    The Leonard that fought Hagler? Toney beats him. Toney would go and get you at 160 and 168, and he wasn't a bit past it and just coming off a war with Mugabi, like hagler was. He'd beat leonard pretty easy, the Toney that fought McCallum. At 168 he might kill Leonard.
     
  4. duranimal

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    Leonard gets dismantled by anyone above 147 who's a prime top ten fighter that why Leonard never fought one after Kalule put the fear up him & that was confirmed when a said cherrypicked journyman called Kevin Howard in 84 dumped Leonard on his arse & that convinced Leonard to QUIT THE SPORT:deal

    Leonard only came back to fight an old & faded Hagler & there's no chance ever that leonard could cut it above 147 & historys proved it. Leonard just ran a seniors $$$$$ tour at the higher weights & please don't dare mention donny lalonde:lol:

    Leonard got humiliated by Norris & thats what would happen to him put in against any young gun & thats why he avoided them all until his ego went into over overdrive & he challenged Norris + Toney knockes the **** OUT:deal
     
  5. teeto

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    Leonard has attributes that are bad for Toney, Toney has a size advantage, take from that what you will
     
  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i would take from that the smaller boxer has foot and hand speed and brain to out score and out speed bigger stronger boxer to build up pts lead using flurries to disguise his possible lack of fighting over the three mins of every round and maybe get the decision. or maybe the bigger stronger boxers heavier punches take effect later in the fight and said bigger stronger boxer wins by stoppage . took what you said but unsure
     
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    Watch Leonard-Benitez and Jones-Toney and get back to me, k?
     
  8. frankenfrank

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    1) Leonard @ 160 was no Jones @ 168
    2) Jones managed 2 catch Toney @ 168 even more drained than he was most (if not all) of d time @ 160
    3) Toney was no Benitez
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Leonard hits and runs his way to victory...he was too smart and mobile like Jones for Toney to win.
     
  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney, at the level he would need to be to outskill and outslick Leonard, was struggling to make 168, much less 160.

    Middleweight Toney had work to do. Leonard was better. Move further up, Toney probably stops him.
     
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    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why? cause hagler couldnt get to him. toney had less chance.
     
  12. kmac

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    toney too big for ray here.
     
  13. Sister Sledge

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    Toney really got better during the McCallum fights. He was probably at his best at 168 before he outgrew it. The way he outclassed Iran Barkley and Prince Charles Williams was amazing. I felt like he was the most complete boxer in the sport at that time.

    At 160. He was still growing as a fighter. He was quick enough to compete with Leonard, and his strength definately would have caused problems. If SRL tried to trade with James, he would have been in trouble.
     
  14. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leonard turns him all night long. Flurry and move and use that flash. And there sure isn't anybody standing there waiting for a receipt when James throws his counters. Just air. Toney needs a guy with far less foot movement than this to do his work.
     
  15. laxpdx

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    Toney would run roughshod over Leonard and put his "Lights Out".