Ray Robinson vs Marvin Hagler

a prime sugar ray robinson would beat any welter/middle in the history. monzón,hagler,leonard,hopkins,jones jr,hearns.. all them included.
marvin would give him a fight of course.
robinson is the first of the bunch in any era

 

that is a bold statment

i think robinson COULD beat any 147 or 160 fighter in history but would he do so consistently?

at 160, he was more vulnerable and a fighter like hagler i would certainly give a solid chance. along with both langford and greb, i might even favour those 3 over robinson

 

i agree, marvin would have his chance of course, because he was a good pressure boxer with solid chin as jake lamotta but marvin was more skilled , my opinion is robinson would beat him 5/6 wars. robinson was as fast as leonard but robinson was more accurate,harder puncher, he had even better footwork, he got killer combinations. in my opinion hagler would be a great rival but robinson was too good.

 

atsch

Hagler aint stopping SRR in a thousand tries, Duran lasted 15 with a prime version, if anyone is getting stopped its Marvin, Robinson is the better fighter, faster & hits harder with both hands.

My call is a UD in SRRs favour if your talking best MW versions vs each other but a TKO or KO win for Robinson is not out of the question, the man sparked out Gene Fullmer with one left hook, KO`d Graziano with one straight right & just about killed Lamotta with ruthless pinpoint powerpunching to both body & head... he only failed to last the distance once in 202 fights vs a LHW, Hagler aint stopping **** vs Robinson, lets get real here.

 

Hagler is not really a big middleweight type that might be able to beat or at least give Robinson probblems on a consinstant basis.
If they both come into the fight at 100% physicaly and mentaly. Robinson would win. However Robinson could let things slip and if that happens Hagler has the abillity to beat him.

 

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Hagler made Duran look good through his own passiveness. Robinson will put up a much better fight, but he's still not the natural MW here. His speed and firepower will trouble Hagler, but Hagler's tenacity always saw him get his opponent out. As I said, Robinson is an ATG great MW going against the best ever MW. Robinson bested lots of quality MW's, but not a prime Marvin Hagler.

"If anybody is getting stopped, it's Marvin..."

Please! If anybody needs to get real, it's you!

 

you never said over how many rounds?

 

i could possibly see robinson on points,as to stopping him,pure fantasy, hagler wouldnt allow it, remember we are talking about 2 atgs here.

 

Its a bold statement to say that Langford beats Robbi... he belongs to a different era IMO and I think its next to useless looking at Greb in fantasy matchups. How is it possible to make a decent judgement when you have no film of the guy?

 

robinson would win, no doubt on it

 

hagler on points with no knock downs

 

Jones wasn´t a great mw and neither was he a great lhw. Or at least he never proved it.

 

so jones wasn't really great, was he ??
was muhammad ali any good ??

 

I wrote he was not a great mw and lhw. The divisions are to deep historically to consider him that. He didn´t do enough, borderline at lhw though. He was a great weightjumper.